[Talk-ee] suspicious roundabout-like ways added

Jaak Laineste jaak at openstreetmap.ee
Tue Mar 15 21:14:01 GMT 2011


Hi Rich,

> i'm resending this message after subscribing to this list. in addition to
> the issues below i'd like to report my email being ignored by moderator ;)

This is my mistake. The list bouncing list has tens of spam emails
each week, yours is probably all times second or third one which was
actually not spam. Therefore these get easily overlooked. I try to
review bounce list once a week or two.

> 1. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/100339092/history
>
> a) it is overlapping 3 times;
> b) it is not connected to other ways;
> c) there are no uploaded traces to confirm existence of such a feature;
> d) my trace from yesterday and other uploaded traces seem to cross it in a
> straight line :)
>
> a such this is highly suspect :)

This roundabout should be there. For Estonia we have permission from
National Land Board (Maaamet) to use their WMS maps and detailed
aerials. These should be listed in JOSM WMS/TMS plugins also. If not,
then there are instructions in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Et:Beginners_Guide_1.1.2 which has
WMS URL. Their aerials can be several years old, and city streets are
rebuilt each year, so cannot trust them really 100%. But in this case
it seems that the info matches with aerials at least. Of course
technically it must be connected to other ways.

> 2. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/100350809/history
>
> a) overlaps the other street;
> b) one attached way not attached on the other end;
> c) no uploaded traces that confirm its existence
>
> also quite suspect (and i guess xybot already fixed it a bit).

 I compared with aerial, and did not really match with it. But last
time when I was driving somewhere around this area last summer I
remember major constructions, so aerials are most probably outdated.
Tags/node issues can be of course wrong just accidentally.

> 3. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/26252364/history
>
> a) added area=yes to a non-area street;
> b) added lots of other, redundant tags. and possibly some incorrect ones as
> well.

You are correct, these seem to be technical errors. Feel free to fix
them, and/or send PM to the editor. He/she seems to be quite new to
OSM, so perhaps just accidents. If you use some template-based editor
(potlatch2, josm) which has fields for all the parameters, then
over-cautious editor may try to actually fill all of them.

-- 
Jaak Laineste



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