[Talk-ee] suspicious roundabout-like ways added

[Rich]

On 03/16/11 09:40, Andres Kaaber wrote:
> 2011/3/15 Jaak Laineste<jaak at openstreetmap.ee>:
>> Hi Rich,
>>
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>>
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thanks for the speedy answer :)

>>> 1. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/100339092/history
>>>
>>> a) it is overlapping 3 times;
>>> b) it is not connected to other ways;
>>> c) there are no uploaded traces to confirm existence of such a feature;
>>> d) my trace from yesterday and other uploaded traces seem to cross it in a
>>> straight line :)
>>>
>>> a such this is highly suspect :)
>>
>> This roundabout should be there. For Estonia we have permission from
>> National Land Board (Maaamet) to use their WMS maps and detailed
>> aerials. These should be listed in JOSM WMS/TMS plugins also. If not,
>> then there are instructions in
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Et:Beginners_Guide_1.1.2 which has
>> WMS URL. Their aerials can be several years old, and city streets are
>> rebuilt each year, so cannot trust them really 100%. But in this case
>> it seems that the info matches with aerials at least. Of course
>> technically it must be connected to other ways.
>>
> I checked today with one of the local people and they say there is a
> roundabout but it is somewhat "virtual" :) it is painted on the street
> and right now there is no way to see it. But still there are 3 circles
> which has to be corrected, thnx.

thank you all - i'll leave it up to you to fix it all logically and 
technically then :)

may i also ask you to contact the mapper in question and introduce to 
the -ee community ? i would probably not be in the best position to do 
so anyway.

>>> 2. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/100350809/history
>>>
>>> a) overlaps the other street;
>>> b) one attached way not attached on the other end;
>>> c) no uploaded traces that confirm its existence
>>>
>>> also quite suspect (and i guess xybot already fixed it a bit).
>>
>>   I compared with aerial, and did not really match with it. But last
>> time when I was driving somewhere around this area last summer I
>> remember major constructions, so aerials are most probably outdated.
>> Tags/node issues can be of course wrong just accidentally.
>
> I can confirm the constructions and plans for roundabout.
>>
>>> 3. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/26252364/history
>>>
>>> a) added area=yes to a non-area street;
>>> b) added lots of other, redundant tags. and possibly some incorrect ones as
>>> well.
>>
>> You are correct, these seem to be technical errors. Feel free to fix
>> them, and/or send PM to the editor. He/she seems to be quite new to
>> OSM, so perhaps just accidents. If you use some template-based editor
>> (potlatch2, josm) which has fields for all the parameters, then
>> over-cautious editor may try to actually fill all of them.
>>
>> --
>> Jaak Laineste
-- 
  Rich