[Talk-es] Más sobre la categorización administrativa de vías en OSM

[Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso]

Buenas
A ver sobre el mapa que adjuntas me choca bastante. Una cosa es bajar
clasificación a las carreteras que van al lado de autovías y otra cosa es
pasarlas a tertiary. Que tenemos en españa tertiary sin linea en medio y
sin arcenes y vamos a igualar carreteras nacionales que en muchos casos
tienen un arcen considerable y siguen en buen estado.

A parte me choca en Soria que la variante la pongas como tertiary. No la
conozco esa parte pero vamos una variante de una ciudad, que parece que no
tiene cruces a nivel me choca muchísimo como tertiary.

¿Puedes explicar claramente los criterios seguidos para dibujar el mapa?

Un saludo.

El vie., 11 may. 2018 a las 0:35, yo paseopor (<yopaseopor en gmail.com>)
escribió:

>  Buenas gente
>
>  Al hilo de lo que dije en un anterior correo me gustaría informaros que
> estos días en la lista de correo de tagging se está debatiendo sobre las
> unclassified (un usuario planteaba que sus unclassified...tenían
> referencia, lo que va en contra de la misma definición de "no
> clasificada".  Pues bien, al explicar la situación española en la que las
> categorías de OSM no encajan exactamente en la clasificación administrativa
> en algunos casos se han dado respuestas interesantes que para los que no
> seais de la lista de tagging os hago llegar:
>
>  Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist en gmail.com via openstreetmap.org
>
>  in Germany and Italy (and probably some more places) the difference is
> between a road section without grade level intersections (and with ramps)
> vs not. Trunk is used in these areas for roads that are built to a standard
> similar to a motorway but not legally designated as motorway. It is not
> about access restrictions (there is the orthogonal motorroad=yes property
> for this).
>
>  Kevin Kenny kevin.b.kenny+osm en gmail.com via openstreetmap.org
>
> One issue is that we have the "UK English is the language of tagging" rule
> - which widely gets interpreted as "highway classification must be
> force-fit into the UK system." The US system presents a complex problem for
> this, since most highway classification is delegated to the states, and
> they all have their own local schemes.
>
> In many counties in the US, rural roads are unnamed and have only
> reference numbers. A farm road may be "County Road 2200N" (which is a
> different classification from, say, "County Highway 23", and typically
> shown only on small blade signs, not banner signs) or "State Farm and
> Market Road #2134". As I understand it, it would fit pretty closely with
> what "unclassified" roads - which are a formal classification in the UK! -
> are understood to be.
>
> Near where I live, numbered 'US', 'State' and many 'County' roads do NOT
> reflect the governing body - they are all managed by the state department
> of transportation. Historically, they had other structures, but
> responsibilities were reallocated. The 'US' highway numbers are coordinated
> with neighbouring states, but the administration is by the state.  There
> are also numbered but (nearly) unsigned 'reference routes' also maintained
> by the state to 'State' highway standards. I say 'nearly' unsigned because
> they do often have inconspicuous chaining markers with their numbers.
>
> Rather than labeling the governing body, the 'US', 'State' and 'County'
> designations around here reflect the grade of importance, expected level of
> traffic and expected quality of maintenance.  Given that the designation
> reflects relative importance rather than administrative jurisdiction,
> despite the labeling, I'm comfortable with having US, State, and County
> numbered roads be 'primary', 'secondary' and 'tertiary' - but in the places
> where the counties number virtually every road, there is a need for a tier
> below 'tertiary' - and 'unclassified' seems to be it; it's a working
> category that might otherwise be 'quaternary.'
>
> Salut i mapes
> yopaseopor
>
> PD: Me he mirado un poco el mapa de la "piel de toro" y he "pintado" como
> quedaría el mapa de la Red de Carreteras del Estado si se aplicara la
> propuesta que propuse. Y ya que estamos os sugiero que hagais lo propio, en
> breve podríamos tener un inventario o un mapa del trazado y categoría
> "real" que podrían tener las carreteras nacionales en nuestro país. Aquí os
> lo adjunto.
>
> https://i.imgur.com/SicS3Gu.jpg
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