[Talk-gb-london] Pavement (Sidewalks)

[Tom Chance]

Hi Clive,

Welcome to OSM! I started in Reading way back in 2005, and am answering as
someone who doesn't have a car...

Personally I think separate ways are a plague, unless there is a really
clear physical separation of what is effectively a footpath, or as David
says a signposted and quite separate shared cycling/walking path. In most
cases there's no discernible difference in the geometry of pavements from
the carriageway and we have tags to indicate whether there are pavements on
one/both sides of the carriageway. Adding extra ways either side clutters
up the database. It's a shame the sidewalk tags don't show up on the
default OSM style, but we don't add data to game that style.

I've noticed someone added a few pavements-as-footways in my local patch.
It just looks odd as they don't exist on most roads on the area, so it
implies there's something different going on there. Which there isn't.

Tom

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On Mon, 2 May 2022 at 21:21, David Davis via Talk-gb-london <
talk-gb-london at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> I'm not very familiar with Reading, but generally if I am adding detail to
> any area of mapping, I will draw in pavements and pedestrian crossings as
> seperate 'ways'.
> Quite often that's because there's a particular signposted walking/hiking
> route that I'm tagging, and it's a bit daft to tag these as going down the
> middle of a road (particularly busy main road junctions, where there's
> usualy a particular set of crossing walkers need to use).
> It's also comes up when mapping cycle routes, which can often involve
> 'shared pavements'.
> But more generally, I don't think maps should just be for car drivers :)
>
> On Mon, 2 May 2022, 21:01 Matthew Norton, <clive.sheela at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m reasonably new to editing OSM so please forgive any massive
>> misunderstandings/blunders I am making.
>>
>>
>>
>> That being said my question is: what pavement (sidewalk) mapping style
>> should be used around the Berkshire (Reading) area? I understand there are
>> some conflicting ideas between how it should be done (a tag on the main
>> road vs a completely separate mapped way) and the wiki states that one
>> should ask their local community as to the way to go about aiding the map
>> (which seems acceptable to me).
>>
>>
>>
>> So this is me asking. The current style in use around me is the tags on
>> the main road, but I feel like a separate way would map the actual
>> locations of the pavements better, which would aid a small project I’m
>> hoping to do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any advice on whether I could start this remodelling would be fab.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Clive.
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