[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops: proposal

Rob Nickerson rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com
Mon Feb 3 20:10:27 UTC 2014


I'm not overly fused either way, but if it was me, I would spend my time
updating the Naptan data in OSM. As I understand it the Naptan data gets
regular updates, but we have never looked at comparing what is in OSM
against the latest Naptan dataset (and this applies to pretty much all OSM
imports as well).

Rob


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brian Prangle <brian at mappa-mercia.org>
Date: 3 February 2014 19:55
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops: proposal
To: Matthijs Melissen <info at matthijsmelissen.nl>
Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands <talk-gb-westmidlands at openstreetmap.org>


Hi Matthijs

I can't see the point of putting Naptan:Street into the name - it will just
repeat information that's already there in the street itself. Common name
only is what is used  I believe in the rest of the UK.

I haven't asked the obvious question which is why do this at all?

I'm a bit concerned that this might clutter up the transport layer, but I
don't know which field is used here

You should also be aware that this data is is very old - I think at least 5
years many of the bus stops simply do not exist any longer and many have
been created that are not here.  We might do better to see if we can get a
more up to date set locally from Centro, before spending too much time on
this. Or perhaps we should revisit the release of data at a national level?

regards

Brian


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Matthijs Melissen <info at matthijsmelissen.nl
> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> As I mentioned in my previous thread, I would like to populate the
> name field of bus stops in the West Midlands.
>
> I would like to use the following format:
>
> - For stops with blue flags, set
> name=First_line_on_pole/Second_line_on_pole (this normally corresponds
> to Naptan:Street/Naptan:CommonName).
> - For black poles, set name=Text_on_pole (this normally corresponds to
> Naptan:CommonName).
> - Set local_ref to the two/three character reference (this normally
> corresponds to local_ref=YF where Naptan:indicator=Stop YF).
>
> I have this also documented on
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Local_schemes .
>
> This proposal only describes how we want the name tag and local_ref
> tag to be set. When I'm ready to do a mechanical edit, I will write a
> separate proposal to discuss that.
>
> For now, I will execute only manual edits (in line with the above
> proposal) for stops that I have actually surveyed (mainly in the city
> center).
>
> Please let me know if you have any comments.
>
> Kind regards,
> Matthijs
>
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