[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Talk-gb-westmidlands Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4

[stuart lester]

I shall try and find out about a map from the City Council.

There must be one somewhere.

Stuart
On 12 Mar 2014 12:01, <talk-gb-westmidlands-request at openstreetmap.org>
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>    1. 20mph zones in Birmingham to be rolled out (Matthijs Melissen)
>    2. Fwd: Re: 20mph zones in Birmingham to be rolled out
>       (Rob Nickerson)
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> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:52:45 +0000
> From: Matthijs Melissen <info at matthijsmelissen.nl>
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> Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] 20mph zones in Birmingham to be rolled
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> "The city council in late 2012 voted almost unanimously in favour of a
> city-wide 20mph speed limit to improve pedestrian safety, lessen
> traffic congestion and reduce pollution. The roll out of 20mph speed
> limits across Birmingham will begin in the city centre and inner city
> wards despite resident objections, it has been announced."
>
> http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/local-news/20mph-zones-birmingham-rolled-out-6800676
>
> In Luxembourg, we used a similar roll-out of speed limits to
> completely map the speed limits in the city, following the council
> quarter by quarter as they rolled out the restrictions. Shall we try
> to do the same in Birmingham?
>
> These are the speed restrictions as we have them now:
>
> http://www.itoworld.com/map/5?lon=-1.85152&lat=52.45019&zoom=12&fullscreen=true
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> By the way, what is the scope of a speed restriction sign in the UK?
> Is the sign valid until the next crossing, or until the next sign
> indicating a change of speed? I have seen both systems used in other
> countries.
>
> -- Matthijs
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> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:09:55 +0000
> From: Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>
> To: talk-gb-westmidlands <talk-gb-westmidlands at openstreetmap.org>,
>         Matthijs Melissen <info at matthijsmelissen.nl>
> Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: Re: 20mph zones in Birmingham to
>         be rolled out
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> That wasn't meant to be an off list reply. See below.
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> From: "Rob Nickerson" <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>
> Date: 12 Mar 2014 11:08
> Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] 20mph zones in Birmingham to be rolled
> out
> To: "Matthijs Melissen" <info at matthijsmelissen.nl>
> Cc:
>
> Its valid until the next sign. In fact department to transport guidelines
> are to NOT put repeater 30mph signs in built up street lit urban areas.
>
> If a side road at 40mph joins a 30mph road then there will be a 30mph sign
> at the end of the side road (just before it joins the main road).
>
> Coventry rolled out a 20mph "zone" in the city centre. At each entry to the
> "zone" they have to put in a speed "gate". This makes mapping much easier
> as you just need to survey the gates (all roads inside are 20mph). When
> Coventry did it they provided a map - so I just walked around with that,
> photographed the precise gate location, mapped them in OSM as nodes away
> from the road (less likely that they will be moved accidently) and then
> split the road way and added maxspeed.
>
> Is Birmingham releasing a map?
>
> Rob
> On 12 Mar 2014 10:53, "Matthijs Melissen" <info at matthijsmelissen.nl>
> wrote:
>
> > "The city council in late 2012 voted almost unanimously in favour of a
> > city-wide 20mph speed limit to improve pedestrian safety, lessen
> > traffic congestion and reduce pollution. The roll out of 20mph speed
> > limits across Birmingham will begin in the city centre and inner city
> > wards despite resident objections, it has been announced."
> >
> >
> http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/local-news/20mph-zones-birmingham-rolled-out-6800676
> >
> > In Luxembourg, we used a similar roll-out of speed limits to
> > completely map the speed limits in the city, following the council
> > quarter by quarter as they rolled out the restrictions. Shall we try
> > to do the same in Birmingham?
> >
> > These are the speed restrictions as we have them now:
> >
> >
> http://www.itoworld.com/map/5?lon=-1.85152&lat=52.45019&zoom=12&fullscreen=true
> >
> > By the way, what is the scope of a speed restriction sign in the UK?
> > Is the sign valid until the next crossing, or until the next sign
> > indicating a change of speed? I have seen both systems used in other
> > countries.
> >
> > -- Matthijs
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