[Talk-GB] Phone Mast data - Guardian reports

Robert (Jamie) Munro rjmunro at arjam.net
Mon Feb 26 12:55:52 GMT 2007


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Andy Robinson wrote:
> Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
>> Sent: 26 February 2007 12:21 PM
>> To: John McKerrell; talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Phone Mast data - Guardian reports
>>
> John McKerrell wrote:
>>>> On 26 Feb 2007, at 09:01, Robert Hart wrote:
>>>>>> More info here:  http://www.freeourdata.org.uk/blog/?p=103
>>>>> That's interesting. I was wondering yesterday about the legal status
>>>>> of information released under FOD was - does it count as PD? Or is it
>>>>> more a case of copyright + fair use? Does it matter if the
>>>>> organisation doing the releasing derives the data from OS?
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be very interesting to try a similar exercise with other
>>>>> mappable sites. CofE churches? post boxes, post offices? Army bases?
>>>>>
>>>> How bizarre, I was only talking about base station data with somebody
>>>> yesterday. For those who are unaware, this site has had their locations
>>>> on it for a while but is fairly nasty:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/
>>>>
>>>> As for other mappable sites, I think the biggest problem would likely be
>>>> that the people holding the data wouldn't necessarily know the lat/lons
>>>> of the locations. For example I'm sure the CofE would be happy to give
>>>> us a list of churches, but I'm guessing all they could give us would be
>>>> addresses and postcodes which we currently don't have any free and open
>>>> way of geocoding.
>> CofE churches should be on http://www.achurchnearyou.com/
>> 
>> Enter a full postcode in the box, and click on the google map that is
>> shown. I'm on a list that the makers of that site are also on - I'll ask
>> them if I can get a copy of their data.
> 
> Ah, but where did their location data come from? If it's simply a link from
> the Royal mail PAF database via the map engines then we cannot use/derive
> the location data for OSM.

It probably came from users clicking the location in a Google maps frame
when they add their church. We need a lawyer in these cases.

Robert (Jamie) Munro
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