[Talk-GB] trunk roads

Robert (Jamie) Munro rjmunro at arjam.net
Thu Mar 29 17:29:54 BST 2007


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David Earl wrote:
>>> See http://www.camcycle.org.uk/map
>> Thanks for this information. It seems that no one is keeping the data
>> on the roadworks up to date, as it is from 1999, nearly 8 years ago.
> 
> Err... it's only been live for a year or so, so it's more likely a typo
> somewhere.
> 
>> It only appears to work in the Cambridge area, which is no use to
>> me. :-(
> 
> 
> Well it is for Cambridge Cycling Campaign!
> 
> But that's not entirely true. The system works by people tracing routes:
> basically making the topological connections that is OSM's starting point.
> It's a wiki so anyone can do this for their own area. If it were done from
> an OSM base map, the data would be divorceable from the map (though would
> have to be CCSA licensed under the terms for OSM)
> 
> OSM isn't adequate as it stands because the richness of the cycle route
> types isn't quite enough - at least for us. For example, where a road has
> cycle lanes and pavement cycling, both are represented *and graded* so that
> if you ask for the 'quietest' route you'll get the pavement and the
> 'fastest' route you'll get the road. It also gives you the exact path to
> take through junctions, much more detail than OSM contains, where most
> junctions are simply single nodes.

But there is no reason they couldn't use OSM as a basis for their
tracing, rather than Google Maps. If they did, their tracing could be
incorporated back in to OSM.

Could we take their codebase, dump the data, and set it up for Oxford,
for example, except with our map instead of Google's? We could then try
to convert our Oxford map into starting traces for their system, which
could then be refined by their tools.

> As I said, the routing software is not derived, but the route data itself is
> tainted by Google. If it were done from OSM, it wouldn't be PD, but could be
> CCSA.

Would they be open to doing that? Is their code available somewhere to
download?

Robert (Jamie) Munro
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