[Talk-GB] Oneway assumes cars?

OJ W ojwlists at googlemail.com
Tue Sep 23 22:07:39 BST 2008


In this case, the "opposite cycle lane" is 6 metres wide and separated
by a central reservation from the "oneway" part of the road opposite.
So tagging it like one of those painted one-metre-wide lanes might get
confusing.

But generally the question is should "oneway to cars" be tagged as
oneway=yes?  Because it paints a big oneway arrow on the map which
will confuse everyone except car-drivers.



On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Dave Stubbs <osm.list at randomjunk.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Ed Loach <ed at loach.me.uk> wrote:
>> Shaun replied:
>>
>>> As far as I understand oneway=yes applies to all vehicles on
>>> wheels.
>>> Therefore you have to do an exception for the cyclists and the
>>> buses.
>>> cycleway=opposite_lane; psv=opposite_lane should do the trick.
>>> It
>>> appears that in this case it hasn't been fully mapped.
>>>
>>> If it is a highway=footway, then the oneway will apply to the
>>> pedestrians. The same goes for highway=cycleway.
>>
>> Looking at
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Map_Features
>> isn't it just cycleway=opposite, rather than cycleway=opposite_lane?
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure of the difference.
>
>
> The difference is whether there is a lane for bikes in the opposite
> direction to the oneway (ie: road markings with a line down the road
> to separate traffic), or whether you can just cycle the wrong way down
> the road avoiding any on coming cars.
>
> The vast majority of the time in the UK it'll be an opposite lane or
> an opposite track (track is when it's separated from the road). Just
> ignoring oneways is quite common elsewhere in Europe.
>
>>
>> The equivalent suggested for psv makes sense, but doesn't feature in
>> Map_Features at all (and looking neither does the equivalent tags
>> for taxis, for roads where cars can only go one way, but buses,
>> taxis and bicycles (and maybe motorbikes) can go both ways). I guess
>> that just means your road will get highlighted in the MapLint stuff
>> with the "not-in-Map-Features" highlighting.
>>
>
> in my experience most well mapped areas do as people get inventive...
> personally I'd remove that test as its next to useless
>
> Dave
>
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