[Talk-GB] The DfT Cycle journey planner

[Peter Miller]

On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:51, Richard Mann wrote:

> If I understood the cyclestreets people correctly, they've been  
> developing it using some funding from the Cycle Demonstration Towns  
> project, so maybe DfT are hedging their bets.

Cycle Streets have just confirmed that they have not received funding  
from the Cycle Demonstration Towns project for our journey planner


Regards,


Peter


>
> Richard
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Peter Miller <peter.miller at itoworld.com 
> > wrote:
>
> I notice that councils across England are being encouraged to
> contribute to the cost of collecting data for the national cycle
> journey planner based on ITN data from the OS. It seem particularly
> strange that local councils are now being asked to pay to collect data
> for the national mapping agency even thought the data can only be used
> with data from the national mapping agency!
> http://www.planningresource.co.uk/news/ByDiscipline/Environment/915276/Call-councils-sign-online-cycle-planner/
>
> Details about the journey planner can be found on the DfT website  
> here:
> http://www.dft.gov.uk/cyclingengland/encouraging-cycling/journey-planner/
>
> This FAQ does make passing comment that there are other planners, but
> makes no mention of OpenStreetMap or CycleStreets or OpenCycleMap etc
> http://www.dft.gov.uk/cyclingengland/docs/journey_planner_faqs.pdf
>
> These 'terms of data collection' make interesting reading
> http://www.dft.gov.uk/cyclingengland/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/standard_terms_for_data_collection.pdf
>
> OSM coverage of cycle demonstration towns is pretty good already and
> it would be truly weird for the Cambridgeshire County Council to pay
> for someone to survey Cambridge! Not all data is good, Darlington in a
> 'UK Mapping Priority' and some of the places have gaps. Should we have
> a project to complete these towns?
>
> I have created an article the demonstration towns here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cycling_demonstration_town
>
> I have also created a category for the towns and added them to it.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Cycling_demonstration_town
>
> Fyi, when I tried the DfT planner from  Manchester Piccadilly Station
> to the Manchester Oxford Road University Site it suggested I use a
> narrow cycle lane on the A6. I am pleased to say that CycleStreets and
> other OSM related planners suggested something better.
>
> I really can't see how the DfT are going to be able to compete with
> OSM in this space and I am wondering how we can get them on side.
>
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> Regards,
>
>
>
> Peter
>
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