[Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView

Tim Francois sk1ppy14 at yahoo.co.uk
Wed May 5 12:26:57 BST 2010


Just to be clear, we were originally talking about St-as-in-Saint!

Tim 

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Mann [mailto:richard.mann.westoxford at googlemail.com] 
Sent: 05 May 2010 12:17
To: Tim Francois
Cc: Craig Loftus; talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView

Follow the street sign. This usually means "Street", but not "Saint".

I think St-as-in-Saint has become a distinct word (pronounced "Sunt"
not "Saint", and with no full stop after the t) and looks peculiar when
expanded, whereas St-as-in-Street is only an abbreviation.

Richard

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Tim Francois <sk1ppy14 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Oh, really? I've just changed a few from "Saint" to "St." based on 
> road signs. Personally, I'm not bothered either way (though it does 
> mean that my neat OS Locator comparison table will never reduce to 
> zero!!) as most people know the difference, but is there a general
consensus on this?
>
> Also, apologies for suggesting you walked anywhere...!! ;)
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: craigloftus at gmail.com [mailto:craigloftus at gmail.com] On Behalf 
> Of Craig Loftus
> Sent: 05 May 2010 11:56
> To: Tim Francois
> Cc: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView
>
>> OSM has the apostrophe after being surveyed to check (thanks Craig!).
>
> Although I did make the correction and a number of other; this 
> instance wasn't based on a ground survey, I just decide it made sense.
> The track runs passed a cemetery which indicates that it is is 
> holiness himself that owns the way; for which an apostrophe would be
required.
>
> Although I don't want to discourage you getting more sunshine, 
> apostrophes are a fun example... street signs can't be taken as the 
> final word on the name of a road. I know of roads which are signed 
> with an apostrophe at one end and without at the other. However, do we 
> then need to worry about street names that have 'legitimately' (with
> time) changed as the result of misspelling?! Hmm... much scope for 
> shed painting in that issue.
>
> The main occurrence of this problem is roads named after saints. Which 
> have the additional problem of the abbreviated saint (St) and whether 
> or not periods follow them. I've been fanatically changing them to the 
> full 'proper' form irrespective of what a particular source says e.g.
> "Saint John's Square".
>
> Craig
>
> On 5 May 2010 11:31, Tim Francois <sk1ppy14 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Is that layer 17 I see before me....?!
>>
>> Also, after my email about name discrepancies between the OS Locator 
>> and OS StreetView packages, I can now confirm that OS StreetView DOES 
>> display apostrophes on SOME roadnames. For example, have a look at 
>> Pope's Walk 
>> http://os.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.369529&lon=-2.348878&zoom=17. OS 
>> Locator says it's Popes Walk (no apostrophe), but StreetView does 
>> include the apostrophe. OSM has the apostrophe after being surveyed 
>> to
> check (thanks Craig!).
>>
>> I guess even more reason to get outside!
>>
>> Tim
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