[Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

[Peter Miller]

On 13 March 2011 15:55, Tom Hughes <tom at compton.nu> wrote:

> On 13/03/11 15:41, Ed Loach wrote:
>
>  You've probably seen the numerous edits by chriscf. Can anyone
>>> explain
>>> the purpose of these edits&  what the the tags below even mean?
>>>
>>
>> I can try, but
>>
>
The bot appears to be adding a source:maxspeed to roads that have speed
limits of 60 mph and 70 mph deducing that these are actually 'national speed
limits' rather than numeric speed limits. I am not aware of there being any
numeric 60 and 70 mph limits in the UK so that does seem to be a reasonable
sound deduction actually.

The bot then adds a note asking someone else to go to the effort of checking
the new tag and removing the tag. I think this is unreasonable. If the bot
is robust (which I think it is), and is tested/approved (which it doesn't
seem to be  - see below) then I think the note field would be unnecessary.

What he has not done is add a link to a wiki page for the bot to the
changeset which is what is expected in Wikipedia and I think should be done
here.

I am not aware that there is even a wiki page for the bot or that it has a
name which also isn't helpful.


>>  I've had no reply to an email sent to him a couple of days ago
>>>
>>
>> nor have I, so it is mainly guesswork.
>>
>
> Which means he is clearly in violation of point 3 "discuss your plans" of
> the automated edits code of conduct:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits/Code_of_Conduct
>
>
Agreed and I consider that use of unapproved bots should be considered as
vandalism and that not discussing plans even after the event makes is worse.

Incidently I notice that chriscj has also been ruffling feathers on the wiki
by ignoring community rules as well:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Chriscf

Can I suggest that someone contacts him again and says that if he doesn't
engage in conversation then it will be escalated to the Data Working Group.
Personally I don't consider that a revert is necessary (even if that was
possible) but I do think we need to be clear on the rules around bots and
enforce them going forward.


Regards,


Peter


Not to mention point 4 as well...
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