[Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Other Routes with Public Access
Mike Harris
mikh43 at googlemail.com
Thu Mar 24 16:09:17 GMT 2011
Dave
I am interested in your opinion but please hold back slightly from
giving me instructions as to what to do or not do. There might be other
opinions.
My use of the verb "assume" was more to ask for other opinions - and
thank you for yours - than to claim that my personal assumption (or
anyone else's for that matter) was a valid basis for OSM work.
Assumption differs from guessing inasmuch as there needs to be at least
some basis for the former!
To help me decide where I stand, please could you provide me with the
evidence for your statement that the acronym "ORPA" is copyright to the
OS? I have not seen it registered as a trade mark or similar? but
perhaps I have missed that. Does the copyright you mention extend to the
English language phrase "other routes with public access" - I would have
thought that such a phrase would be difficult to protect with copyright?
I won't enter hear into the debate as to whether OSM should record only
and exclusively what can be seen on the ground as this has been
discussed endlessly. I suspect that your opinion is currently a minority
view. It seems to me that there are countless (in all sorts of contexts)
examples of people including in the database information that cannot be
seen on the ground e.g. the "source" tag.
Let's not get too dictatorial in this discussion!
Mike
On 19:59, Dave F. wrote:
> Hi
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> I've had a reply from the user who admits he based the tagging on an
> on-line OS map & has subsequently removed the specific tag.
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> The ways still have access tags such as foot, horse etc..
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> On 24/03/2011 10:11, Mike Harris wrote:
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>> I would assume that information that is, for example, based on
>> personal local knowledge or on personal conversations with people
>> having such knowledge (including but not restricted to public
>> servants in the Highway Authority) is a legitimate and unencumbered
>> source.
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> Assumption is the same as guessing & not good for OSM.
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>> There are also, in some areas at least, lists of ORPAs that are
>> publicly available (in the same way that the 'List of Streets' is
>> publicly available). I am not aware of ORPAs ever being signed as
>> such (although a few do have some sort of signage indicating that
>> there is a public right of access - and others illegally indicating
>> otherwise!).
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> Do these lists use the name OR PA?
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> If not, then the only source is the OS which is copyrighted.
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> Tag what you see on the ground
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> Cheers
> Dave F.
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*/Mike Harris/*
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