[Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

[Ed Loach]

It might be a bit over the top, but for pubs that make the CAMRA
Good Beer Guide (or for some branches their local guide) lots of
details have to be collected. See for example the key on this
example page:

http://www.tendringcamra.org.uk/pubdetails.html?uid=10856

(there is an iframe or something to pull the middle bit from the
Essex CAMRA Pubs database).

 

Things like nearest bus route and nearest station don’t need
surveying of course, assuming these are already mapped in OSM.

 

The above pub may not have been the best example. Opening hours and
Food hours often aren’t the same (opening_hours:food=?) – see for
example

http://www.tendringcamra.org.uk/pubdetails.html?uid=10940

 

CAMRA members can visit
http://www.hertsale.org.uk/essex/GetPubsByLocation.php and log in
using their national login to see still more details which are
generally hidden. Thing such as lat/lon, owner, tied or not,
licensee, licensing area, Good Beer Guide years, who did the survey
(not logged in you only see survey date), and some remarks which are
usually used to store news about pubs closing, reopening, changing
hands, poor service, or whatever. These regional database sites are
due to feed into a national database, but I’ve not heard how that is
progressing.

 

Ed

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bprangle at gmail.com] 
Sent: 04 November 2011 08:58
To: Andy Robinson
Cc: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org; Richard Fairhurst
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

 

Hi everyone

 

Thanks to everyone who made suggestions. If we can build on Graham's
initial efforts I think we can get a great map  and do some some
interesting surveying with an incentive to get people out mapping!
As a first pass on a tagging scheme can I suggest we follow the wiki
page at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:brewery for showing
which beers are on sale at pubs ( i.e NOT guest beers)

and that we encourage the use of the extra tags suggested on the
wiki page for
pubshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpub

We can also make us of the microbrewey tag described on
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:microbrewery%3Dyes  for those
places that only sell their beer on their own premises.

 

Using that as a basis we could tag

 

building=distillery

building=brewery

building=cider_press

building=perry_press

(that should remove any spurious entries like "Brewery Apartments"
if we just do a search on names)

 

For specialist off-licences which sell real ale we could use the
realale tag from the pub wiki page

 

Some breweries don't have visiting facilities so we need a tag to
describe this. Any suggestions? Opening hours could do it maybe?

 

To cover all these establishments should we have an "industry
sector" tag industry=alcohol or commercial=alcohol?  Perhaps
alcoholic_beverage would be better to distinguish it from industrial
alcohol?

 

How to distinguish real ale from industrial mass market breweries?

 

How to list awards e.g  CAMRA Pub of the Year 2010

 

Once we can get a consensus I can get a wiki page up within the UK
projects section

 

 

Regards

 

Brian

 

 



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