[Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

Andy Mabbett andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk
Tue Nov 15 15:57:15 GMT 2011


Aston Manor Brewery in Birmingham no longer makes ales; just cider, on
an industrial scale - yet retains the word "Brewery" in its name. :-(

On 15 November 2011 15:40, Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone
> Just dome some armchair mapping in Hereford where the HP Bulmer site is a
> massive industrial complex so I don't think ciderhouse or press or mill is
> somehow appropriate so I've labelled it industrial=brewery for the meantime.
> Perhaps we should also have industrial=cider?  The Bulmers site in
> tagQueries which is in Ireland will probably be the same (and possibly
> Magners - but that might come out of the Bulmers Irish site)
> Regards
> Brian
>
> On 15 November 2011 14:07, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.net> wrote:
>>
>> Steve Doerr wrote:
>> > The Oxford English Dictionary got it wrong then:
>> > *cider-house* n. a building in which cider is made.
>>
>> Far be it for me to criticise the august OED (though I'm more of a
>> Chambers
>> man), but yes, it did.
>>
>> http://www.thecoronationtap.com/ - "Clifton's original, and still it's
>> only,
>> ciderhouse"
>>
>> http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_house - "A Cider House is
>> like
>> a pub that serves only cider. They used to be quite common, but there are
>> only a handful left. Often they were little more than a room in a
>> farmhouse
>> or cottage, selling cider for consumption on the premises."
>>
>> http://www.bristolciderhouse.co.uk/
>>
>> and perhaps the definitive description, by the late Paul Gunningham at
>> http://www.somersetmade.co.uk/oldscrump/ciderhouses-ciderbar.php :
>>
>> "Ye Olde Cider Bar in Newton Abbot, Devon, England is a very special place
>> for scrumpy users; special because it is a surviving example of a rarity
>> whose numbers have dwindled over the centuries: the cider house. As the
>> name
>> implies, this is a bar that sells cider to the public, but a cider house
>> is
>> not a pub - maybe most (if not all) pubs these days sell some form of
>> cider
>> (even though most only sell the inferior keg variety), but a cider house
>> definitely does not sell any beer!
>>
>> "Once upon a time there was a large number of alehouses in England,
>> selling
>> only ale (beer) to the public, and similarly there were many cider houses
>> dispensing cider to their thirsty patrons. Over the years, alehouses
>> became
>> public houses selling a wider range of drinks than just beer - wines and
>> spirits included. Meanwhile, many former cider houses became pubs, with
>> the
>> result that today we expect our pubs to sell just about any form of
>> alcoholic drink, as well as soft drinks.
>>
>> "At the last count, there were only four surviving cider houses in England
>> -
>> in the whole of Britain, for that matter. One of these extremely rare and
>> special places is this cider house in Devon - Ye Olde Cider Bar in the
>> market town of Newton Abbot on the scenic River Teign, between historic
>> Exeter and the tourist resort of Torquay."
>>
>> and so on.
>>
>> cheers
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
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