[Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

[Craig Loftus]

>> There has been a little discussion on the talk page about this. I
>> think Andy is mainly interested in specialist shops (shop=alcohol) and
>> noting whether they sell real ale, either draught or bottled. As a
>> first punt I suggested overloading real_ale (real_beer), with
>> 'draught' and 'bottled' values.
>
> Did we agree on these tags?

Nobody disagreed. There haven't been any other suggestions, or the
objections I expected to the use of real_beer.

>     real_beer = draught; bottles
>     shop = alcohol
>
> but it's not rendering.

Did the tagging 'work' for you?

The map only covers producers atm. It doesn't render distributors
(either pubs or shops). If we want to render those then I think a map
just for them would be needed. And because of the numbers involved
probably a map using a tile based approach (like the ITO maps), rather
than the current pins on the map.

However, I don't think we should think about pubs (or shops) until
there has been discussion of the 'enhanced' pub tagging that I've
proposed. I'm pretty sure it doesn't cover some cases. The proposal is
to describe the different ownership types of pub:

> Managed, it seems that operator=* and brewery=* is appropriate?
> Tenant, we could use tenant=yes, with brewery=* and owner=* if known?
> Tied, I think this is represented through brewery=*?
> Free, free=yes?

Should the tenant tagging just use operator instead of owner?

How should we tag pubs owned by chains (e.g. Ember Inns) that have
contracts with breweries, but I aren't tied in a traditional sense? My
feeling is to just use operator=* and brewery=* as it is unrealistic
represent it in more detail?

Craig

On 27 November 2011 11:05, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
> On 18 November 2011 12:39, Craig Loftus <craigloftus+osm at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Also I haven't checked off licences - not sure what to search for?
>>
>> There has been a little discussion on the talk page about this. I
>> think Andy is mainly interested in specialist shops (shop=alcohol) and
>> noting whether they sell real ale, either draught or bottled. As a
>> first punt I suggested overloading real_ale (real_beer), with
>> 'draught' and 'bottled' values.
>
> Did we agree on these tags?
>
> i found a fantastic off-licence in Leominster the other day, which
> sells ale on draught:
>
>     http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1517032398
>
>  and tagged it:
>
>     real_beer = draught; bottles
>     shop = alcohol
>
> but it's not rendering.
>
> It also sells bottled real cider and perry, BTW.
> --
> Andy Mabbett
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> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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