[Talk-GB] Mapping Field Boundaries

Graham Jones grahamjones139 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 19 19:33:35 BST 2012

I much prefer re-usable keys, so would favour 'condition=' over
'dry_stone:condition='.   The second one would be very specific to dry
stone walls, but the general 'condition' one could be used for any feature.
This is in part biased by the way I produce maps - I use mapnik rather than
maperitive, so maintain a postgresql database of osm data.  Adding an extra
key means adding an extra field to the database, which is a pain!


On 19 August 2012 18:59, Dudley Ibbett <dudleyibbett at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi
> Over the last few months I've been mapping field boundaries in
> Derbyshire/Peak District.  The condition of "dry_stone" walls varies
> greatly.  One thing I would also like to do is tag the condition as this
> information could well be useful in preserving the landscape character.
> There are grants available for repairs etc.  I am also tagging stiles but
> again the condition varies significantly.  Our local Parish Council
> actually has money to repair stiles but doesn't spend it.  I have been
> asked to carry out a survey of the footpaths and it would be good to tag
> the type of stile at its condition.
> Searching on the web I can find reports on surveys that define systems for
> classifying the conditions of stone walls.  I've emailed the British Stone
> Wall Society to see which they would recommend.  A DEFRA approved system
> would seem to make sense should anyone want to use the information to get
> funding for repairs.
> I have yet to find any system for classifying the condition of stiles.
> I've only found comments with regard to the land owners requirement to
> ensure they are safe.  Has anyone come across a system?  I have also asked
> the BSWS about this.
> The other issue I will have is how to tag the condition.  I've found
> "building:condition="  as a tag so I guess you could use
> "dry_stone:condition=".  I might actually be easier just to use an
> additional tag "condition=".
> I've no experience of using maperative to make maps but was wondering if
> anyone knows how easy it would be to change its set up with regard to the
> about tags.  i.e. would "dry_stone:condition="  be more difficult to work
> with if you wanted to produce a map of walls with the condition identified
> against them than a separate "condition=" tag.
> "condition" is also something that will change with time.  Given the
> possibility of developing mobile phone apps to do updates of this, would
> again having a separate "condition=" tag be easier?
> I should add that I currently mark a barrier as a "wall=dry_stone" even
> though it may be a long pile of stones and a fence now runs parallel to
> it.  I take the view (it is one I checked with a landscape architect) that
> the landowner would probably not have the fence there if the old wall
> wasn't there.  There is also the hope that it might one day be rebuilt.
> Any comments about the use of "dry_stone:condition=" or "condition="
> would be helpful.  (Having written this I'm leaning towards "condition=" as
> a separate tag)  Any views on a system for classifying the condition of
> stiles and stone walls would also be useful.
> Best Regards
> Dudley
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Graham Jones
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