[Talk-GB] Hadrian's Wall

Gregory nomoregrapes at googlemail.com
Wed Aug 29 15:16:19 BST 2012


Hi Dudley,

Can you give a link to the map of the area you are looking at?

Gregory.

On 28 August 2012 19:54, Dudley Ibbett <dudleyibbett at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi Gregory
>
> Thanks for the feedback.  I think JOSM thinks that "ruins" should be an
> area.  It is a line on the map and you can see it trying to shade the area
> between the two ends.  Looking further down the wall it appears that I may
> just have hit an odd section where "ruins" was used.  It is a separate line
> from the path so I will change this to wall.
>
> I'm not familiar with relations but presume just changing the tag and
> adjusting the position wont change this.
>
> Regards
>
> Dudley
>
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> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:00:09 +0100
> From: nomoregrapes at googlemail.com
> To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Hadrian's Wall
>
>
>
> There are relations for Hadrian's Wall.
>
> http://ra.osmsurround.org/searchRelation?name=Hadrian&relationType=&route=&ref=&network=&operator=
>
>
> The wall sections should be tagged as they physically are.
> barrier=wall where it is still a structure
> historic=wall I think is suitable where the route goes but it's gone (may
> be obvious through bumps in the ground or a line of large stones)
> I know there are some sections where the path walks along the top of the
> brick wall that is only a meter wide.
>
> The relations then group the sections together so a map of the whole route
> can easily be made.
>
> Hadrians Wall -  http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/933533  -
> The route the wall takes/took & forts, may be gone in some places.
> Hadrians Wall Path -  http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/38791
> - a signed route, that may detour from the wall at times.
> Hadrians Wall Cycle Path -
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/152157 - like the walking
> route, but more likely to detour and include more roads.
>
> I guess in some places the 'wall' could be mapped as an area because it is
> quite wide, but I'm unsure about doing this.
>
> Gregory
> (live in Durham, work in Newcastle, only visited a small part of the wall)
>
> On 27 August 2012 16:50, Dudley Ibbett <dudleyibbett at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi
>
> I'm trying to do a bit of mapping near Once Brewed following a walk this
> weekend.  Hadrian's Wall seems to be tagged as "historic=ruins, name=..."
> at one point and "historic=wall, name=..." at another.   The former seems
> to be trying to create an area in JOSM.
>
> Given that I am trying to add barriers.  i.e. walls, fences, gates, stiles
> etc it would seem that where Hadrian's Wall is actually a physical barrier
> it should have the tag.  i.e. "barrier=wall" and "historic=wall".  I note
> that the documentation for "historic" suggests that "historic=yes" should
> be avoided.
>
> I assume that Hadrian's Wall has been mapped as a historic "wall" whether
> it still exists as a barrier or not.  Does anyone know the source of the
> wall data  (there is no tag in the section where I am mapping) as having
> walked the path that is directly to the side of the wall some of what is
> currently mapped seems to need adjustment?  Bing appears to be reasonably
> accurate when compared to the my own and others GPS data in this area.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Dudley
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