[Talk-GB] New user reinstating old railways in Norfolk

[Shaun McDonald]

It may be worth pointing out that you can have different view of the same data. For example ITO have a map highlighting the former railways:
http://www.itoworld.com/map/198#fullscreen&lat=52.58151540618443&lon=1.0302901709739063&zoom=9

Shaun
ITO World Developer

On 18 Feb 2013, at 14:24, "Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)" <robert.whittaker+osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> New user MATTHEW NIBARI [1] has created just two changesets [2], both
> yesterday (17th February). The OSM History viewer views of these are
> as follows:
> 
> http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=15065237
> http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=15066769
> 
> I've been though every way listed there, and every single change in
> both of these changesets involves changing railway=abandoned or
> railway=disused to railway=rail, and removing any highway=* tags. I
> haven't checked every way, but I expect that all these railway lines
> are indeed disused or abandoned, and so the previous tagging was
> correct.
> 
> I sent Matthew a message a couple of hours ago through the OSM system
> to explain that our tagging should reflect the current reality, and
> that his changes are therefore inappropriate. His reply was that he
> was trying to track down old railway lines and make them easier to
> find in OSM. He didn't seem to see a problem with changing the
> tagging. His user page [1] includes the text "If people are having
> problems please note the edited sections must not be changed for any
> reason so if anyone inbox me or changes it back, I will revert back if
> its put back" suggesting he may revert any changes to his new tagging
> regardless of other's views. I've sent a second email half an hour ago
> to explain in more detail why current roads need to be tagged as roads
> and not railways, and suggested that he should discuss things with the
> community on talk-gb to find a suitable way to achieve his ends
> without messing up the map data for everyone else.
> 
> At that stage I'd only found a couple of road->rail changes in one
> changeset, and wasn't aware of the History Viewer, so didn't know that
> *every* change was removing highway tags and changing to railway=rail.
> I thus wasn't sure whether the whole changeset would need reverting or
> just a part of it, and so I asked Matthew what his changes had
> involved. However, I think it's now clear that the whole of both
> changesets [3,4] need to be reverted. Presumably, this should be done
> as quickly as possible to avoid the risk of subsequent edits
> complicating things. I don't have any recent experience of doing
> reverts, so is there anyone reading this who would be able to do them
> instead?
> 
> I haven't had a reply from Matthew to my second message yet, but once
> this has posted, I'll send him a web link to this thread.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Robert.
> 
> [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MATTHEW%20NIBARI
> [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MATTHEW%20NIBARI/edits
> [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15065237
> [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15066769
> 
> -- 
> Robert Whittaker
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