[Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

Gregory Williams gregory at gregorywilliams.me.uk
Thu Jan 3 09:33:13 GMT 2013

One feature that I've found that I now use quite frequently to help with the
problems associated with increasingly detailed mapping is the Filter panel
in JOSM. Now that, for example, there's lots of landuse, buildings, and
highways all in fairly close proximity I have filters to pick out, for
example, just the highways. That enables me to avoid accidentally selecting
an adjacent woodland to a highway when adding a maxspeed for example.


One of the levels of detail that I've been collecting recently is the
maxspeed of all the roads in my area. I have a filter set up such that roads
with a maxspeed are dimmed, such that I can easily see the places that I
still need to gather the data, and such that I don't miss tagging those
small portions of roads, like turning heads and bridges.


From: Nick Allen [mailto:nick.allen.54 at gmail.com] 
Sent: 02 January 2013 22:24
To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries



Putting another perspective on this, one of my other hobbies is Scouting,
where I try to teach young people about maps & navigation. In this country
there is a tendency to assume that any navigation must involve OS maps, & I
try to widen their knowledge & get them to question the accuracy of anything
they are using for navigation. I've put in quite a few boundaries &
barriers, to OSM, and I produce paper maps for my Scouts to navigate by,
before I introduce them to compasses, GPS's & anything else that aids

As a mapper, I do find that it is getting more & more difficult to alter or
add to data because we've added so much detail. I would like someone (sorry,
don't have any skills in the software department) to produce something that
aids in editing densely compacted data - certainly I've made my share of
mistakes in the past & then spent twice as long trying to correct them. 

I don't know about anyone else, but every so often I need a break from
walking residential streets collating address details, and a walk in the
countryside works for me.


Nick (Tallguy)

On 02/01/13 15:50, Steven Horner wrote:

I guess it depends on your uses for OSM, I come from a walking
backgroundwith GIS use in my day job, I have completed Mountain Leader
Training and I am interested in the possibilities of replacing Explorer maps
(one day) with OSM. For this to happen boundaries would be  useful although
not essential and their would be lot of other hurdles like Grids but that's
a different topic. 


I set this discussion away and expected different view points for and
against. My take on all this is if you are happy to go out and map them,
then do so. If someone else isn't interested in doing that then that's no
problem and if a user doesn't want that information shown on map it could be
removed from their rendering in the same way I wish it was available at
lower zoom levels.


OSM is different things to different people and that is part of the beauty
of it, in my mind the more detail the better the ability to view it our own
ways is available although I wish their was a way to turn some things on and
off more easily from Openstreetmap.org without rendering my own version.




On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Dave F. <davefox at madasafish.com
<mailto:davefox at madasafish.com> > wrote:

On 31/12/2012 21:17, Steven Horner wrote:

Personally I would love to see fields (landuse) and the walls/fences that
make this up marked on OSM ...

I'm afraid I'm going to be a bit of a party pooper.

Whilst having all the boundary data in OSM would be nice, I'd hardly call it
essential. I do a lot of rural walking & always record & map any barriers
that are relevant to the path I'm on, but, personally,  I consider mapping
all hedges etc. a waste of time. Why bother if no one is ever going to use
that information by walking there?

I consider farmland as the base layer & therefore rarely map it as fields.

Dave F.


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