[Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=

Steven Horner steven at stevenhorner.com
Fri Jan 4 17:18:09 GMT 2013

I've been looking at Durham records online (not available to download) they
are recorded like below:

Status: BW
Parish: Crook
Path Number: 37
Path Ref Number: 0280000037

The long reference number identifies the Parish (first part) and the path
number (last part) or I believe that's how it is made up from checking
different areas.

If sticking with one PROW code then I guess either prow_ref or prow:ref. I
used prow_ref.
If multiple codes are to be used then to my mind it would make sense to use.


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Barry Cornelius <barrycorneliusuk at gmail.com
> wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:47:34 Steven Horner <steven at stevenhorner.com>
> wrote:
>> I have followed the guidelines
>> at http://wiki.openstreetmap.**org/wiki/United_Kingdom_**
>> Tagging_Guidelines<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines>
>>  but
>> should I tag the footpath with the local authority reference which would
>> aid
>> logging the path to the Council if problems like FixMyPaths, if so how?
> Although I cannot add anything useful to the discussion about prow:ref and
> prow_ref, I do have some thoughts about the content of the tag.
> Often the data a council provides about a PROW includes duplication.  For
> example, often the parish is given as a nice friendly name and also as a
> number.  Here's an example of the data given about a PROW that is provided
> by Devon County Council (both council and PROW chosen at random):
>    <SimpleData name="PARISH">Abbots Bickington</SimpleData>
>    <SimpleData name="STATUS">Footpath</**SimpleData>
>    <SimpleData name="NUMBER">1</SimpleData>
>    <SimpleData name="NUMBER0">0</SimpleData>
>    <SimpleData name="CODE">801FP1</**SimpleData>
>    <SimpleData name="NUMBER1">Abbots Bickington Footpath 1</SimpleData>
> So the id of the parish appears three times (twice as a name and once
> as a number); the number of the path appears three times; and the fact
> that it is a footpath appears three times.
> For this, I guess you've got a choice betwen using the contents of CODE or
> NUMBER1. I would recommend choosing whatever appears on the Council's
> interactive map.  Devon County Council uses the contents of the NUMBER1
> field, i.e.:
>    Abbots Bickington Footpath 1
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 16:36:53 Craig Loftus <craigloftus+osm at googlemail.**com<craigloftus%2Bosm at googlemail.com>>
> wrote:
>> Is it wise to preclude adding more tags to the namespace? As an example,
>> one
>> additional tag that occurs to me is "prow:operator" (or
>> "prow:authority"), to
>> describe the local authority the references 'belong' to.
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:35:31 Robert Whittaker <robert.whittaker+osm at gmail.*
> *com <robert.whittaker%2Bosm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I wouldn't have thought that listing the authority would be that
>> useful -- you should be able to work that out from the county that the
>> way resides in.
> My view is that it would be useful to include the id of the council as I
> do not think it's obvious which authority is involved.  For example, the
> data for Devon does not include Torbay.  And Bedfordshire is provided by
> two councils: Bedford and Central Bedfordshire.  Gloucestershire is
> provided by the councils of Gloucestershire and South Gloucestershire.
> For my web site (www.rowmaps.com), I've chosen to use the two letter
> codes that are used by the OS Opendata 1:50 000 Scale Gazetteer:
>    http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.**uk/oswebsite/products/50k-**
> gazetteer/index.html<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/50k-gazetteer/index.html>
> The two letter code is in field 12 of their colon-separated file.  There
> are 208 different values.  Fields 13 and 14 of that file also provide short
> names and long names.
> Here are some examples of fields 12, 13 and 14:
>    BF:Beds:Bedford
>    BK:C Beds:Central Bedfordshire
>    DN:Devon:Devon
>    DU:Durham:Durham
>    GR:Glos:Gloucestershire
>    SG:S Glos:South Gloucestershire
>    TB:Torbay:Torbay
> Either you bundle the id of the council in with the name of the PROW as in:
>    Devon Abbots Bickington Footpath 1
> Or as suggested by Craig you could provide it in a separate tag - he was
> suggesting "prow:operator" or "prow:authority".
> All of the data for councils that I've seen specify the parish in which
> the PROW appears.  So, really there are three separate pieces of
> information:
>    id of council
>    id of parish
>    id of PROW
> e.g.,:
>    Devon
>    Abbots Bickington
>    Footpath 1
> or:
>    DN
>    801
>    FP1
> --
> Barry Cornelius
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