[Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=
Steven Horner
steven at stevenhorner.com
Fri Jan 4 17:18:09 GMT 2013
I've been looking at Durham records online (not available to download) they
are recorded like below:
Status: BW
Parish: Crook
Path Number: 37
Path Ref Number: 0280000037
The long reference number identifies the Parish (first part) and the path
number (last part) or I believe that's how it is made up from checking
different areas.
If sticking with one PROW code then I guess either prow_ref or prow:ref. I
used prow_ref.
If multiple codes are to be used then to my mind it would make sense to use.
prow:ref
prow:parish
prow:authority
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Barry Cornelius <barrycorneliusuk at gmail.com
> wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:47:34 Steven Horner <steven at stevenhorner.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have followed the guidelines
>> at http://wiki.openstreetmap.**org/wiki/United_Kingdom_**
>> Tagging_Guidelines<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines>
>> but
>> should I tag the footpath with the local authority reference which would
>> aid
>> logging the path to the Council if problems like FixMyPaths, if so how?
>>
>
> Although I cannot add anything useful to the discussion about prow:ref and
> prow_ref, I do have some thoughts about the content of the tag.
>
> Often the data a council provides about a PROW includes duplication. For
> example, often the parish is given as a nice friendly name and also as a
> number. Here's an example of the data given about a PROW that is provided
> by Devon County Council (both council and PROW chosen at random):
> <SimpleData name="PARISH">Abbots Bickington</SimpleData>
> <SimpleData name="STATUS">Footpath</**SimpleData>
> <SimpleData name="NUMBER">1</SimpleData>
> <SimpleData name="NUMBER0">0</SimpleData>
> <SimpleData name="CODE">801FP1</**SimpleData>
> <SimpleData name="NUMBER1">Abbots Bickington Footpath 1</SimpleData>
>
> So the id of the parish appears three times (twice as a name and once
> as a number); the number of the path appears three times; and the fact
> that it is a footpath appears three times.
>
> For this, I guess you've got a choice betwen using the contents of CODE or
> NUMBER1. I would recommend choosing whatever appears on the Council's
> interactive map. Devon County Council uses the contents of the NUMBER1
> field, i.e.:
> Abbots Bickington Footpath 1
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 16:36:53 Craig Loftus <craigloftus+osm at googlemail.**com<craigloftus%2Bosm at googlemail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> Is it wise to preclude adding more tags to the namespace? As an example,
>> one
>> additional tag that occurs to me is "prow:operator" (or
>> "prow:authority"), to
>> describe the local authority the references 'belong' to.
>>
>
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:35:31 Robert Whittaker <robert.whittaker+osm at gmail.*
> *com <robert.whittaker%2Bosm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't have thought that listing the authority would be that
>> useful -- you should be able to work that out from the county that the
>> way resides in.
>>
>
> My view is that it would be useful to include the id of the council as I
> do not think it's obvious which authority is involved. For example, the
> data for Devon does not include Torbay. And Bedfordshire is provided by
> two councils: Bedford and Central Bedfordshire. Gloucestershire is
> provided by the councils of Gloucestershire and South Gloucestershire.
>
> For my web site (www.rowmaps.com), I've chosen to use the two letter
> codes that are used by the OS Opendata 1:50 000 Scale Gazetteer:
> http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.**uk/oswebsite/products/50k-**
> gazetteer/index.html<http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/50k-gazetteer/index.html>
>
> The two letter code is in field 12 of their colon-separated file. There
> are 208 different values. Fields 13 and 14 of that file also provide short
> names and long names.
>
> Here are some examples of fields 12, 13 and 14:
> BF:Beds:Bedford
> BK:C Beds:Central Bedfordshire
> DN:Devon:Devon
> DU:Durham:Durham
> GR:Glos:Gloucestershire
> SG:S Glos:South Gloucestershire
> TB:Torbay:Torbay
>
> Either you bundle the id of the council in with the name of the PROW as in:
> Devon Abbots Bickington Footpath 1
>
> Or as suggested by Craig you could provide it in a separate tag - he was
> suggesting "prow:operator" or "prow:authority".
>
> All of the data for councils that I've seen specify the parish in which
> the PROW appears. So, really there are three separate pieces of
> information:
> id of council
> id of parish
> id of PROW
> e.g.,:
> Devon
> Abbots Bickington
> Footpath 1
> or:
> DN
> 801
> FP1
>
> --
> Barry Cornelius
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