[Talk-GB] Tidying up some shop tags

Will Phillips wp4587 at gmail.com
Sun May 5 15:02:00 UTC 2013


These generally seem fine to me. The only one I think is questionable is 
shop=locksmith from shop=keycutting. There is a risk of losing some 
meaning here: some shops tagged shop=keycutting might offer only 
keycutting, while shop=locksmith implies a broader range of services. 
Perhaps shop=locksmith locksmith=keycutting could be considered.

Consolidating categories like furnishings and sports shops does seem 
sensible, but it is important care is taken to ensure subtle meanings in 
the tagging are not lost.

Wilkinsons is difficult to tag. It sells quite a broad range of items 
including toiletries, stationery, cleaning/DIY/gardening supplies, 
kitchenware and confectionery. I use shop=hardware, but recognise it 
doesn't fit entirely. shop=supermarket seems wrong because it implies a 
full range of food is sold, while Wilkinsons only sells crisps/chocolate 
bars/sweets. shop=department_store also isn't quite right: to me it 
implies more expensive items are also sold (electrical goods, interior 
furnishings etc.)


On 05/05/2013 14:25, sk53.osm wrote:
> I propose to tidy up some shop=* tag values. I am not certain of the 
> full scope, but here are ones I do know about:
>
>   * to shop=bookmaker from bookmakers, bookies, Bookmaker, Bookmakers,
>     bookmarkers,turf_accountant [shop=betting has nearly as many uses
>     as shop=bookmaker, and shop=gambling also exists]
>   * to shop=clothes from clothing [shop=fashion also exists]
>   * to shop=books from bookstore
>   * to shop=comics from comic, comicbook
>   * to shop=alcohol from off_licence, offlicense, offlicence, off_license
>   * to shop=vacant from shop=empty & shop=closed,
>     shop=currently_unlet, shop=former_florist, shop=Vacant (but not
>     shop=disused)
>   * to shop=pet from shop=pets, pet_shop
>   * to shop=carpet from shop=carpets (and various combos of CarpetRIght)
>   * to shop=beauty from shop=beauty_salon
>   * to shop=locksmith from shop=keycutting
>   * to amenity=fast_food, cuisine=fish_and_chips from shop=fish_and_chips
>   * to amenity=fast_food, cuisine=sandwich  from shop=sandwich shop
>
> I think these all reflect reallocation to more widely used tags.
>
> There are plenty of values of shop which would benefit from some 
> consolidation, such as the many different varieties of shops selling 
> furnishings (blinds, curtains, ....) and sporting goods (golf,ski_hire 
> ...) which could do with a single overall value and adjectival tagging 
> for the detail.
>
> I must say the combos shop=fish, shop=fishmonger and shop=fishing are 
> likely to lead to confusion. In particular is shop=fish a fishmonger, 
> a pet shop or an angling shop?
>
> I am not sure if some people tag shop=laundry for dry cleaners or of 
> they are always separate Personally it makes sense to combine cleaning 
> services (ironing, repair, dry cleaning, steam laundry etc) of this 
> type under a single tag.
>
> Some retailers seem to cause particular problems in choosing an 
> appropriate tag. Wilkinsons are variously tagged as supermarkets, 
> hardware, variety and department_store. In addition the name is often 
> entered without the 's'.
>
> I'm sure others have noticed other things or have particular nit 
> picking about shop=* values.
>
> Regards,
>
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> Jerry
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