[Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

[Tom Hughes]

On 03/08/14 15:49, Colin Smale wrote:
> As this discussion is about UK specifics, I thought it would be a good
> plan to reach out to the talk-GB list.

The only things I would say you can commonly assume from such signs are 
that the road is unadopted, and that the residents/owners would like you 
to think that they can control access to it.

In reality such roads may, even though they are not adopted and are 
hence not maintained at public expense, be highways with an associated 
right of way for the public.

It's quite likely that the owners have the right to control parking but 
less likely that they have the right to control access and passing along 
the road.

See, for example:

http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/atoz/a_to_z/service.asp?u_id=1065&tab=3&siteid=5409&pageid=29027&e=e

Tom

> --colin
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> On 2014-08-03 16:44, Colin Smale wrote:
>
>> On 2014-08-03 16:24, Craig Wallace wrote:
>>> On 2014-08-03 11:00, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
>>>> Residential roads in the UK often seem to have 'private road' signs,
>>>> such as: - 'Private road' - 'Private road no parking' - 'Private
>>>> road no parking no turning' - 'Residents only no unauthorised
>>>> parking or turning' How do people tag these roads? For which of
>>>> these would you use access=private? Thanks in advance.
>>> Depends on just what sort of road it is, and how it is signed. ie are
>>> they actually official signs or something more homemade. Often a
>>> "Private road" sign is specifically referring to motor vehicles, so
>>> it should just be tagged as motor_vehicle=private (or motor_vehicle=no).
>> How about horses? How do you conclude that these signs are only for motor vehicles?
>>> In Scotland, you would generally have a right to walk or cycle there
>>> etc, so should also be tagged as foot=yes, bicycle=yes.
>> There are exceptions to this, which include "Land on which there is a house, caravan, tent or other place affording a person privacy or shelter, and sufficient adjacent land to enable those living there to have reasonable measures of privacy and to ensure that their enjoyment of the house or place is not unreasonably disturbed." IANAL but I suspect this might be applicable to residential roads in private ownership.
>>> Not sure about the legality in England and Wales.
>> Land ownership in E&W is absolute isn't it? Trumped only by a public right-of-way.
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