[Talk-GB] Metropolitan counties and other boundaries

Brian Prangle bprangle at gmail.com
Fri Feb 21 13:53:52 UTC 2014


Hi


The West Midlands is administered as a unit for fire police and public
transport rather than individually by the 7 constituent LAs. I don't know
where that places it, but use the information as you see fit

Regards

Brian


On 20 February 2014 11:34, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> In the last couple of years I have put in a lot of hours maintaining the
> UK's admin boundaries in OSM. Having started in Kent (home territory) I
> have gradually been fanning out to cover more and more of the country.
> Although there is a lot of consistency in the tagging, one thing I noticed
> is that there are two schools of thought regarding Metropolitan Districts.
> These are a subdivision of Metropolitan Counties, of which there are six:
> Greater Manchester, Merseyside, South Yorkshire, Tyne and Wear, West
> Midlands and West Yorkshire.
>
> The Metropolitan Counties still exist in law, and certain functions (e.g.
> Fire&Rescue, public transport) are often governed at that level. The
> Councils no longer exist as bodies however. The Metropolitan Districts
> (which are styled as Boroughs or Cities) are therefore effectively 99% the
> same as "unitary authorities".
>
> In the situation between 1974 and 1986 the tagging would be obvious: both
> the County and the District would be boundary=administrative, with
> admin_level=6 for the county and admin_level=8 for the districts. In OSM,
> things have diverged a bit since then, and proper Unitary Authorities are
> tagged as admin_level=6 putting them on the same level as Non-Metropolitan
> Counties.
>
> The current situation in OSM is:
>
>                         admin_level
> County     county tag  county district
> GM         ceremonial     n/a 8
> Merseyside ceremonial     n/a 8
> S Yorks    administrative 6   8
> T&Wear     ceremonial     n/a 6
> W Mids     administrative 6   8
> W Yorks    ceremonial     n/a 8
>
> I would like to normalise this tagging, and looking at the current usage
> above and the wiki[1], propose that the Metropolitan Counties become
> boundary=ceremonial, and the Metropolitan Districts become
> boundary=administrative, admin_level=8.
>
> Are there any objections or other comments? If not I will make the changes
> in a few days' time.
>
> By the way, I have been creating a wiki page to try to give an overview of
> UK boundary tagging at [2]. Please look at it - any comments, corrections,
> additions etc are most welcome, and if people feel it's useful the content
> can be moved into a more "obvious" place in the wiki.
>
> Thanks,
> Colin
>
> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Admin_level
> [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Csmale/ukboundaries
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