[Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

[Shaun McDonald]

Maybe a simple method is to use the OSM notes system, which is what the feature was designed for?

Shaun

On 3 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Dan S <danstowell+osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> You know, rather than thinking about automatically importing any of
> their data into OSM, my intuition is that given the concerns about OS
> copyright, plus how much OSMers enjoy mapping new features, I'd
> suggest using their data to create a web feed of "Hot new roads for
> mappers to go and survey!" - I bet they'd all be mapped within a week
> ;)
> 
> Dan
> 
> 2014-07-03 18:41 GMT+01:00 John Baker <rovastar at hotmail.com>:
>> 
>> Yeah I know we are pretty good at adding them. But this discussion started
>> with the HA because there were roads that were not on OSM.
>> 
>> It was this project that he was working on.
>> http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/a23-handcross-to-warninglid/
>> 
>> So I personally added this in a rough way based on the descriptions from him
>> who was on site at the time and the plans that were there (I didn't trace
>> them just looked at them).
>> 
>> I don't (for a change) want to get into conversation about tracing imagery
>> vs. doing it by hand. The point is what can we use.
>> 
>> My thought were that if there plans were based on the OS streetview (rather
>> than the more detailed ones) then we could use them.
>> 
>> 
>>> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:23:34 +0100
>>> From: osm at raggedred.net
>>> To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
>>> 
>>> On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker wrote:
>>>> The first thing I am worried about is the copyright of the various
>>>> plans. Some/many seem to be derived from OS maps.
>>> 
>>> A legitimate concern.
>>>> 
>>>> Now I am no expert on the copyright situation here and dialogue is
>>>> difficult they know little about OSM really. He just said we release
>>>> the plans and they are public domain.....
>>> 
>>> There is no mechanism in the UK for a body like the Highways Agency to
>>> release data as PD. That is a mechanism used in countries like the US.
>>> In the UK the info would have to be licensed using a specific licence,
>>> such as the Open Government Licence. If the plans are based on OS maps
>>> then OS would have to agree to release this, according to OS's
>>> interpretation of copyright law. OS probably will not agree to this, but
>>> it is worth asking :-).
>>> 
>>> Without a suitably agreed licence we cannot trace such plans into OSM.
>>> You could visit the site and get GPS traces & photos to add such works
>>> to OSM, which is usually what happens as soon as a new road gets opened.
>>> 
>>> I'd be interested if the Highway's Agency have opened new roads and they
>>> are not included in OSM very soon after. That seems to me to be
>>> something we are pretty good at.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Cheers, Chris
>>> user: chillly
>>> 
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