[Talk-GB] Bing imagery

[Eric Grosso]

Will,

Could you please give an example of an area where the others, e.g. SK53,
can see the high-resolution imagery in order to see if it works for us.

Thanks,
Eric


On 3 March 2014 16:35, Will Phillips <wp4587 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  What I don't understand is why some people are seeing this problem but
> other aren't. I've just got someone who edits in another part of the
> country, and so will not be seeing cached images, to have a look at a
> location in my local area in JOSM. They could definitely see three
> different lots of high-res imagery at different zoom levels. Others,
> including SK53 and Blackadder, have indicated seeing the same. On the other
> hand, Eric's message below describes exactly what I am seeing, as did Steve
> Brook's message yesterday.
>
> Regards,
> Will
>
>
> On 03/03/2014 14:10, Eric Grosso wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>  I encountered exactly the same problem at the end of last week (before
> the higher zoom level images of my editing zone were still in cache and hid
> the problem) -- location: Edinburgh, Scotland.
>
>  Apparently this problem appeared for some contributors at the beginning
> of last December:
> - (5 December)
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2013-December/010190.html
> - (7 December)
> https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/28868/aerial-background-imagery-disappears-in-p2-if-i-zoom-in-to-a-high-level-it-did-not-in-the-past
> - (18 December) http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=23592
>
>  Because the source of the problem is apparently due to some changes in
> the Bing maps API, the developers of the OSM editors, at least those of
> JOSM, did not much investigated this problem -- see comments 11 and 16
> here: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/9408.
>
>  @ Filip: an employee of Microsoft gave partially an answer here:
> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/live/en-US/8e2af97a-f5e5-4ae0-acec-562db7e134d0/why-is-it-that-the-bing-map-control-has-a-much-lower-resolution-than-the-website?forum=bingmapswindows8
>
>  Some people think that there is a link with the launch of the new 3D
> Bing maps data:
> http://www.bing.com/blogs/site_blogs/b/search/archive/2013/12/05/maps3d.aspx
>
>  I also checked on the Bing maps website. It appears that we can only
> access the zoom level 19 when using the Bing Aerial imagery (
> http://www.bing.com/maps/) without showing labels. But if the labels are
> activated, it's possible to access all zoom levels even those higher than
> 19. So at the moment, because the Bing/OSM licence -- as far as I
> understand it -- doesn't allow the OSM contributors to use another Bing
> imagery than the Aerial one without the labels, the problem seems currently
> unsolvable.
>
>  Cheers,
> Eric
>
> On 3 March 2014 10:00, SomeoneElse <lists at mail.atownsend.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Andy Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> Zooming in on Nottingham I'm seeing three different imagery versions at
>>> different zoom levels. I don't anything missing.
>>>
>>>
>>  Here's a specific example, to the north in Mansfield:
>>
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch2#map=19/53.14850/-1.18456
>>
>> (using P2 because it doesn't overzoom)
>>
>> At z19 there's the current road layout.  At z20 (or 21?) the old road
>> layout used to be visible (the footpath that you can see used to be a
>> road).  I remember this one only because SK53 and I specifically discussed
>> the old road configuration, and I first mapped it (well, tidied up the
>> ex-NPE roads already there) when the roads were being changed to the new
>> configuration.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
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