[Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

Colin Smale colin.smale at xs4all.nl
Sat Nov 1 09:23:30 UTC 2014


To paraphrase a well-known saying: Quality is in the eyes of the

How long do you think we can survive with this policy of refusing to
acknowledge that there is such a thing as good data and bad data?
Interpretation of the definition of the name tag (and many others) is
incredibly subjective. Abbreviations? Ampersands? Including or excluding
suffix type information such as "and Sons Ltd"? Capitalisation? Spacing?
The list is endless.... 

As an architect I can only applaud Matthijs' initiative towards some
level of normalisation. If there are objections to this particular
method, let's have some alternatives out on the table. The fact that
this discussion is taking so much time and energy would seem to confirm
that we have so far failed to address the data quality issue, which
starts with a definition of a norm - even if it is a woolly one if
that's what is called for. Once we have a norm, we measure our data
against that norm, and take appropriate steps to improve it. 

If the norm is "anything goes", then there should be no discussion,


On 2014-11-01 09:15, Lester Caine wrote: 

> On 01/11/14 01:45, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> On the whole the changes seem logical, but I'd rather they were applied manually than setting a precedent to allow changes that may not ACTUALLY apply as some small outlet is being a little economic with the name they are using ...

> I would guess that's a rather hypothetical situation. Do you have any example?

More a case that any attempt to do the job properly' and create proper
relational data by using any table of 'valid' data and only allowing a
reference to that table to be used has always been frowned upon. If we
are going to 'dictate' what is acceptable content it should be managed
properly rather than blindly re-writing tags.

I'm not saying that the changes are wrong ... just that this is not the
right method to get things done.

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