[Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

Philip Barnes phil at trigpoint.me.uk
Tue Nov 4 12:55:07 UTC 2014


On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 23:35 +0000, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> On 2 November 2014 16:11, Andy Street <andy at street.me.uk> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:24:46 +0000
> > Matthijs Melissen <info at matthijsmelissen.nl> wrote:
> 
> >> - 'Brantano Footwear' versus Brantano
> 
> > Whilst company names do not necessarily reflect trading names I'd be
> > inclined to take "Brantano (UK) Limited" as further evidence for
> > "Brantano" over "Brantano Footwear".
> 
> Are there still objections against "Brantano"?
> 
> >> - Capitalization of Aldi, Lidl, Spar, Asda
> 
> > What do people think about using upper case for names that are
> > pronounced as a series of letters and mixed case for names that are
> > pronounced as a word? Whilst not ideal (until the widespread adoption
> > of the talking shop sign!) this would give us a rule of thumb that
> > should be easy enough to follow in the majority of situations.
> 
> I'm not sure if this would be a good general rule, it would look
> strange in abbreviations like NATO, AIDS, or GNU (not sure if all of
> them occur in topographic names).
> 
> Maybe we could follow the spelling the organization uses themselves in
> running text? That would give us Lidl, Aldi, and Asda, but SPAR.
> Alternatively, we could follow the spelling other media use to refer
> to those shops (which is the rule Wikipedia uses), which would
> probably give us Lidl, Aldi, Asda, and Spar. The latter also
> corresponds with current use. What do you think?

ALDI, LIDL, ASDA and SPAR are all abbreviations of their full names, in
the same way as NATO, AIDS, BBC, OSM or GNU are.

I would prefer to keep things correct although usage in OSM does seem to
have gone heavily away from this. Even the Germans can't decide with
ALDI and LIDL.

In the late 70s, early 80s when ADSA arrived as the new kid on the
block, everyone seemed to know it was short for Associated Dairies, but
that has probably long since been forgotten.

This is probably not really controversial and I should go along with the
majority.

Phil (trigpoint)




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