[Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

SomeoneElse lists at atownsend.org.uk
Thu Nov 13 00:55:51 UTC 2014

It looks like at least one node reverted as a result of the message 
below has been unreverted again:


Maybe I missed the memo about this, but I'm not convinced that shop tags 
doing  the hokey-cokey makes OSM data any more usable :-)



On 24/10/2014 17:46, SK53 wrote:
> Dear Matthijs,
> As Will has objected to these edits, I do too. I agree with him that 
> it is far too premature to even consider doing this.
> AFAIK the Nottingham area is the only place in the UK, and one of the 
> very few places in the world, where there has been a systematic 
> approach to mapping shops (by Paul Williams, Kev Swindells, Will 
> Phillips and myself). The tags chosen have been chosen with care and 
> represent a very valuable data set for evaluating how one might 
> develop the tagging scheme for shops in the future.
> Altering these tags to some view of what they should be creates the 
> following problems:
>   * It destroys the utility of the OSM-Nottingham
>     <http://osm-nottingham.org.uk/> site which is a show case for OSM
>     in our local area. This already has a categorisation of retail
>     tags which we know works really well (created by Will Phillips,
>     but pretty much in accord with my own ideas of classification set
>     out in my slides at SotM-Baltics. (OSM Nottingham demonstrates
>     incidentally that consuming such data, as I have said before, is
>     not a major point of development complexity.
>   * It destroys a highly useful data set for evaluating how things
>     might be tagged by mappers in the field.
> It also shows a massive amount of disrespect for other OpenStreetMap 
> contributors  in a multitude of areas their mapping styles, their hard 
> work, and their local knowledge.
> I would ask you to revert edits made in the UK over the past few days, 
> and for you to abstain from further mechanical edits in the area.
> Should you not do this I may feel a need to refer your actions to the 
> Data Working Group.
> Regards,
> Jerry Clough
> On 24 October 2014 14:44, Matthijs Melissen <info at matthijsmelissen.nl 
> <mailto:info at matthijsmelissen.nl>> wrote:
>     Dear all,
>     I am proposing to unify the names of chain shops within the UK. For
>     details, please see
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/UK_Shop_Names.
>     Please let me know if you have any comments. If there are no further
>     comments, I will invite list members to vote on this automatic edit. I
>     will not proceed without at least 8 votes with 2/3 approval.
>     Kind regards,
>     Matthijs
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