[Talk-GB] Allegedly named motorways

Colin Smale colin.smale at xs4all.nl
Wed Nov 19 08:32:30 UTC 2014


 

I wonder how motorway services get their post delivered. If they have a
letter box, must they have a postcode and therefore a street address? I
know in NL motorways sometimes have official names for this purpose, to
fulfill referential integrity requirements. Typically it is something
obvious like "M1 Northbound" but it is in the official street name
register. 

Colin 

On 2014-11-19 08:50, Andy Robinson wrote: 

> When I put the M6Toll in I named it originally Midlands Expressway as that's the name it had right through till the DfT/Secretary of State decided it should be branded M6Toll. 
> 
> Plenty of similar examples, such as the Preston Bypass which formed an early part of the M6. 
> 
> Where these names are no longer used on the ground then a former_name tag would be appropriate. 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Andy 
> 
> FROM: Colin Smale [mailto:colin.smale at xs4all.nl] 
> SENT: 19 November 2014 07:21
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> SUBJECT: Re: [Talk-GB] Allegedly named motorways 
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> Most of the "names" in the South East seem to have been added by two (prolific) specific mappers. Has anyone asked them about their source and motivation? It would sound fair to consult them and hear them out. 
> 
> Having said that, one of the top rules in my mkgmap[1] style is "highway=motorway {delete name;}"... 
> 
> Colin 
> 
> [1] mkgmap produces Garmin satnav maps from OSM, in case anyone is wondering 
> 
> On 2014-11-19 02:12, Andrew Black wrote: 
> 
>> There is some evidence of these names being used when the roads were built eg 
>> 
>> http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1459443 [2] 
>> 
>> South Wales Motorway (M4): Chiswick to Langley Special Road; contract for Boston Manor Bridge 
>> 
>> But I don't think they are useful now. 
>> 
>> On 18 Nov 2014 23:49, "Steve Doerr" <doerr.stephen at gmail.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> On 18/11/2014 23:06, SomeoneElse wrote: 
>> 
>> There's a similar issue a bit further out, the "Slough-Maidenhead By-Pass":
>> 
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/81517663 [3]
>> http://ris.dev.openstreetmap.org/oslmusicalchairs/map?osl_id=18177 [4]
>> 
>> Again that sounds like a description; I've never seen that sign on the M4. 
>> 
>> Slough By-Pass is used on OS maps from 1964 to 1975: https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/498008/178760 [5]
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