[Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com
Wed Nov 19 16:00:42 UTC 2014

Some general notes:

1. Many people (especially estate agents) add 'town' & 'village' etc to 
addresses in an attempt to appear further upmarket & keep prices a bit 
higher. Never really works.

2. I agree with the editor's comment that confusion/disagreement about 
degrees of suburbs is not a valid reason to tag them incorrectly as towns.

3. Not checked any of the edits specifically but would the name used by 
the local authority/council give a reference?

4. Tags not amended 'in ages' makes them ripe for review/update, not set 
in stone.

Dave F.
Mapper, not committee member

On 19/11/2014 10:07, Tom Chance wrote:
> Hello there,
> As somebody who dislikes change, I was slightly horrified to see these 
> edits:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26783815
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26795471
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26567938
> The user has changed a whole lot of places within London and 
> Birmingham that were tagged as town / village / hamlet / etc. to 
> place=suburb. He appears to be following the advice now given on the 
> wiki, that:
> "Areas of a town/city should not be tagged with place=town, 
> place=village or place=hamlet. These should only be used for distinct 
> settlements."
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dsuburb
> Apart from the fact that I cannot stand it when the work of 
> self-appointed wiki editors leads to somebody making sweeping edits of 
> others' work, I also really don't like losing the hierarchy of place 
> implicit in Wimbledon being marked as a town, Forest Hill a village, 
> Belleden a hamlet, and so on, and them all just becoming 'suburb'. 
> Apart from the fact that many places in London were historically towns 
> in their own right, they are often also regarded as town centres.
> But should we swallow this and move to the use of 
> place=suburb/quarter/neighbourhood?
> If so, I'd like to do this properly, instead of the process that this 
> user has gone through to just make everything 'suburb'.
> Regards,
> Tom
> -- 
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