[Talk-GB] Great British Public Toilet Map

Harry Harrold harry at neontribe.co.uk
Thu Nov 20 15:22:52 UTC 2014

Hi Phil,

Thanks for taking the trouble to have a look round!

>>> http://greatbritishpublictoiletmap.rca.ac.uk/
> Looking at the map locally I can see that access tags have been
> omitted,  those in Shrewsbury railway station are behind the ticket
> barriers hence should have been tagged as access = customers,  as
> should those inside a local national trust property.

It's a fascinating question, is that, I think.

Apologies if this gets a bit long-winded...

Our record for that toilet is at 

That record is made of multiple reports, each of which we show in a data 
panel in the site UI.

The report of the loo we fetch from OSM is shown at 
http://gbptm-api.herokuapp.com/reports/5414a074115902773aa8f24d - and it 
and the record for the same node at 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/256041724 has only the tags amenity 
and toilet as you noticed. On the basis of that report alone, we'd show 
that toilet as public.

The report we have from the National Rail Enquiries data shown at 
http://gbptm-api.herokuapp.com/reports/54653da5115902773aab04e0 has 
"access":"public". On the basis of those two reports, we'd show the 
toilet as public.

We've since had a couple of anonymous reports through the site UI - 
example at 
http://gbptm-api.herokuapp.com/reports/546df03827780c020033c3bd - that 
do tell us "access":"customers only" for that loo. So at the moment, we 
have that toilet tagged for customers only.

I _suspect_ purely on the basis of a gut feel that the toilet is 
available to customers or the general public at the decision of the 
member of staff crewing the ticket barrier at the time, such that 
sometimes a ticketless member of the public will be nodded through to 
use the facilities, and sometimes they will not. Again, with no direct 
experience of that station, I imagine that we'll get reports of 
"access":"customers only" and of "access":"public" from different people 
and they will all be accurate for that person, at that time.

In that case - our current behaviour is accurate, I think, in that we 
are causing as little disappointment as possible.

Which local national trust property are you looking at, may I ask?


(Despite Gail's kind and complimentary description, not a developer, not 

Harry Harrold

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