[Talk-GB] Canal & River Trust maps

Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com
Thu Apr 2 12:45:12 UTC 2015

On 02/04/2015 12:41, Lester Caine wrote:
> On 02/04/15 12:28, Dave F. wrote:
>> Ah, might as well forget it...
>> Just read Richard F's blog on the CRT website. V. disappointing.
>> https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/news-and-views/blog/odette-myall/new-maps-for-a-new-website
> It is much better to look at this as a positive rather than a negative!
> What *IS* needed is a successful way of using third party data sets
> rather than continually merging now quite complex data sets into the one
> unmanageable whole. I would hope to see the information available as an
> overlay to osm in the same way it overlays google.

As you can see. it's not just me who want CRT to use OSM:

Note paragraph: "We’re very fortunate to have Google as one of our 
partners, so we won’t be moving away from Google as the base layer for 
the map."

My tweets to Victoria Peckett, CRT's 'digital manager':

I'm disappointed by your decision not to use OSM, especially since it 
has more data, detail & accuracy. When things change, they're updated 
quicker in OSM (especially pubs!). Please reconsider your decision to 
make CRT maps even better.

Genuinely surprised you think Google to be better quality than OSM (sent 
her comparative links)

Her reply:
Thx for feedback. Understand not everyone will prefer Google, but is 
very widely used format & one many people familiar with

Me: It's a shame a collaborative/volunteer org. like the CRT can't 
embrace a similar volunteer/crowd sourced project. OSM already contains 
much canal & ancillary data. Does Google? (which, incidentally, owns any 
data you freely enter into it)

Hi Dave. Understand your prefer OSM but we believe our styling over 
Google base layer does offer good quality experience & data..

Me: As a "digital manager" it's a shame you're unaware of OSM's 
rendering abilities, even better than Google. Annoyed with @richardf

I have to say, considering the response (I found "one many people 
familiar with" especially irritating) I'm struggling to see the positive.

Richard F:
Is it planned to release the SAP database under an open license?

Dave F.

>   Then perhaps all the
> material that is simply missing or incorrect on google can be replaced
> with much more accurate local views :) Certainly the paths and access to
> the navigable sections of canals and rivers around here are currently
> totally blank on the google version.

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