[Talk-GB] elsan_points

[Colin Smale]

Is there any intrinsic difference between one for boats and one for
motorhomes? If they are actually pretty much the same thing, maybe the
difference would better be expressed by "access=customers" or purely
geometric/geographic properties. 

On 2015-04-22 20:07, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: 

> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.net> wrote:
> 
>> Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>>> What can we assume the UK tag "waterway=elsan_point" means? One or more
>>> of:
>>> 
>>> 1) Walk up toilet
>>> 2) Cassette dump for boats
>>> 3) Cassette dump for motorhomes
>>> 4) Pump out
>> 
>> Very firmly and unambiguously 2.
>> 
>>> I propose making the assumption the present elsan_point tag means* #3*,
>> 
>> Could I make the evidently-not-bleeding-obvious-enough observation that the
>> "waterway=" bit is quite a good hint that it's not meant for motorhomes.
> 
> Yes, I think waterway is an excellent hint. Thus: 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/waterway%3Dsanitary_dump_station [2] 
> 
> WATERWAY=ELSAN_POINT would become WATERWAY=SANITARY_DUMP_STATION, nothing more. 
> Motorhomes need not apply. 
> 
> --- 
> 
> Note this sanitary_dump_station scheme replaced over a dozen other tagging styles worldwide. It was a real mess: fragmented and tagged for the rendering such as to be absolutely unprocessable in any rational way. There were advocates for using UK term "Elsan" for the cleanup. 
> Others objected to the use of a trade name. Thus SANITARY_DUMP_STATION as an attempt at a generic term with a good chance of understanding when translated into multiple languages, and a good match to the customary terms used locally. The scheme's wiki page is now in French, German, English and Russian. 
> 
> Elsan point is not a term with recognition outside the UK. 
> 
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