[Talk-GB] Paths and Footways

Rob Nickerson rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com
Mon Aug 17 20:43:51 UTC 2015


Thanks Dudley.

I'm not sure that I agree that this is UK specific. We render roads
according to their status (motorway to unclassified), and as such I see
potential to do this for paths irrespective of country. In regards to
designation=*, are we now the only country that makes a distinction between
paths you have a legal right to walk on and any other path that might exist
because people happen to walk over the land thus leaving a "desire line"
path?

Rob


On 17 August 2015 at 18:42, Dudley Ibbett <dudleyibbett at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> My thoughts as follows:
>
>
>    1. This is really going to be something for a UK specific rendering.
>    It is actually quite useful as a QC exercise to rendering footways/paths
>    with and without a designation tag.  Something I do on my own Garmin map.
>    The presumption on my part being that ideally we would like to see all
>    footway/bridleways etc have their appropriate designation tag.
>    2. I think this is really something for a specialist
>    site.  “waymarkedtrails” does this very well.
>    3. I would not be in favour of this.  It would be very subjective and
>    would vary throughout the year for many footpaths and depend on who and how
>    many people had walked it recently.
>
>
> I guess if the new rendering for footway throws up significant problems
> there will be more interest in a UK website.
>
> Regards
>
> Dudley
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
>
> *From:* Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* ‎Sunday‎, ‎16‎ ‎August‎ ‎2015 ‎18‎:‎27
> *To:* Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Given that paths and footways are now rendered the same way in the default
> OSM style I wonder whether it is time to look at how the map can provide
> better information.
>
> For rural mappers tagging a path/footway as unpaved surface results in it
> having less prominence on the map. As most major public rights of way are
> unpaved this makes these paths harder to view on the default OSM map.
>
> Some possible changes:
>
> 1. Render all paths/footways that are tagged as
> designation=public_footpath (or other RoW) more prominently.
> 2. Render those paths/footways that make up a long distance walking route
> more prominent (relation data).
> 3. Render based on another tag such as trail visibility [1] or maybe we
> need a brand new tag to indicate path dominance (like we have
> motorway/trunk/primary/etc for roads).
>
> What are people's thoughts on this? The second has a request on github
> already [2].
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:trail_visibility
> [2] https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1750
>
> Regards,
> Rob
>
>
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