[Talk-GB] too many universities in Cambridge

David Earl david at frankieandshadow.com
Sat May 23 11:16:48 UTC 2015


Can you put that on a different thread.

On Sat, 23 May 2015 at 12:15 Dave F. <davefox at madasafish.com> wrote:

>  Hi
>
> Going minorly off on a tangent - One item I would change is leisure=pitch
> which current represents whole areas of sports grounds to
> leisure=recreation_ground, & have leisure=pitch to indicate just the
> pitches (ie the white lines of a football pitch). Currently there are
> situations with two 'pitches' on top of each other.
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.40868/-2.37860
>
> David Fox
>
> On 22/05/2015 14:58, David Earl wrote:
>
> Yes, the operator tags are the same when it is the same institution - the
> colleges are independent institutions, part of the larger federation. This
> is part of the complexity of this.
>
>  I'm not arguing I don't want to change anything, just that there's too
> much gratuitous change which breaks real, existing products because of
> hypothetical futures.The wiki analogy is wrong here I think - that's the
> content. It's much more an API, as I think you were essentially agreeing,
> and people go to great lengths to try to maintain backward compatibility,
> only deprecating things when they absolutely have to.
>
>  And it's not so much me not wanting to change things, of course change
> happens, it's random, arbitrary, incompatible change that is such a problem
> to deal with. Dan's not arguing for that, and I've already said I'll look
> at it and see what's involved. But not today!
>
>
>
> On Fri, 22 May 2015 at 14:49 Andy Allan <gravitystorm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 22 May 2015 at 14:27, David Earl <david at frankieandshadow.com> wrote:
>> > Andy, the operator tags are all the same, not the building names.
>>
>> No, they really aren't.
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/148247775 - "Churchill College
>> (University of Cambridge)"
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/12861651 - "University of Cambridge"
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/98523431 - "Clare College (University
>> of Cambridge)"
>>
>> > But also the assertion "within a few dozen miles" is wrong, as for
>> > Nottingham in China.
>>
>> Read what I said, please:
>>
>> >> If there were two objects tagged as universities with
>> >> identical names within a few dozen miles, I could make a guess they
>> >> are the same university and write some rendering rules to suit.
>>
>> I make no assertion that all parts of the same university are within a
>> dozen miles.
>>
>> I hope you realise that your tagging (using tags that imply 1200
>> different universities) is causing problems, and think "what could I
>> do to help other people" rather than "I don't want to change
>> anything".
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andy
>>
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