[Talk-GB] New map style

Colin Smale colin.smale at xs4all.nl
Sat Oct 31 23:02:06 UTC 2015


You didn't miss my offer as it wasn't there. Personally I do not have
the time to PM this kind of thing as I have bigger things to worry
about.  I think your rather patronising response is somewhat coloured by
the fact that you happen to like the result.... I have the greatest
respect for the people who have put a lot of time and effort into this,
and indeed into all the myriad other components which make up the OSM

I'm sure you know as well as I do that plans can change, and that
stakeholders have a surprising ability to understand and accept that if
it is communicated and explained to them properly. The fact that the
date may change, is no excuse for not having some kind of target date...


On 2015-10-31 23:27, Chris Hill wrote: 

> On 31/10/15 21:59, Colin Smale wrote: 
>> The change could have been managed better, like proper announcements a couple of months ahead of time, with a date - "On 30th October OSM will switch to a new stylesheet for the standard map. For information about what this will mean for you, click here" on some main web page springs to mind.
> I must have missed seeing your offer to manage the process. I suspect the guys making the changes (in their spare time, who don't get paid for this and certainly get very little praise for stepping up the plate) would have really liked having a deadline set for the job months ahead, with their paid jobs, their families and social life getting in the way of meeting your deadline.
> I quite like the change. There a few things that I would like to see tweaked, but I don't care much, I have my own renders which I like.
> We should all keep in mind that the standard map on the OSM website is not OSM. It is just a single render as an example of what is possible. There are thousands of renders out there (I must have made more than a dozen). Making your own map tiles in your own style is not that hard and not very hard or expensive to host if you have a real need to do it. Getting access to the data is the point of OSM. You can use it yourself, so rather than bitch about the style or the process or the communication, why not just make your map tiles and be happy. Or actually pitch in to really help.
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