[Talk-GB] Village, Hamlet and populations ...

Richard Symonds richard.symonds at wikimedia.org.uk
Mon Sep 14 14:04:16 UTC 2015


Well, the beauty is that you could use just those definitions instead:
"defined by PC as village"
"defined by census as town"
"defined by Local Government Act as parish"

etc etc. Wikidata is very good at keeping track of these, and then the
reader can simply select whose definition they want to use!

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On 14 September 2015 at 14:52, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:

>
>
>
> No reason whatsoever.... but how do you determine what a place calls
> itself? What the Parish Council puts on the "village" sign -> according to
> the PC. What the population maps to according to some algorithm ->
> according to the author of the algorithm.
>
> On 2015-09-14 15:23, Richard Symonds wrote:
>
> Is there any reason that a place can't be both?
> eg.
> "defines self as=town"
> "defines self as=village"
> "defined by X as village"
>
> Or the like?
>
> Richard Symonds
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> 0207 065 0992
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> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
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> On 14 September 2015 at 14:20, Lester Caine <lester at lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 14/09/15 13:02, SK53 wrote:
>> > On the other hand finding a way to access population figures to places
>> > for data consumers is useful. Directly adding population values may work
>> > in Britain where population change is relatively slow, so slowly
>> > outdated data is still useful, but is risky in other parts of the world.
>> > At the very lease also add a link to wikipedia/wikidata as well, which
>> > ultimately should obviate having to maintain population values
>>
>> That is precisely where I started ;)
>> Or rather adding the wikipedia link ...
>>
>> The problem is that even coverage in wikipedia is far from complete so
>> one finds erratic quality of information. Additionally wikidata is still
>> at an early stage and does not have the bulk of the information already
>> in wikipedia, so someone has to go through and change all the
>> information blocks around or add missing ones where needed :(
>>
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