[Talk-GB] Quarterly Project : Schools - Multiple Schools on one site

Lester Caine lester at lsces.co.uk
Sun Jan 17 11:29:41 UTC 2016

On 17/01/16 09:48, Ed Loach wrote:
>> I'd like some advice please on how to tag 2 Schools that use the
>> > one site.
> Lester replied:
>> > What I've done initially is tagged the buildings of each part with the
>> > correct name and ref:edubase tag, and not put a tag on the site
>> > boundary. This I think will throw errors on the progress page, but in
>> > some cases the sites have a public name ... such as Abbey Park
>> > Schools
>> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/36626132, but the sites
>> > in
>> > Evesham I don't think make the distinction, with in one case 5
>> > separate
>> > edubase establishments across two sites. Not sure what to do there,
>> > but
>> > tagging the building has to be correct, and the lack of a site name is
>> > not a problem! So should not be flagged as an error.
> I was working through some schools last night and found this example:
> http://osm.org/go/0EHYuEbV1--?m=
> in Wivenhoe. Already well mapped in my opinion with the fhrs:id already on each school's building, so I just added ref:edubase to each building too. In this situation the amenity=school tag is on the site with the individual schools within the sites having the tags that apply to them (but not an additional amenity=school tag). 
> There are a few more examples in Colchester where neither school is currently mapped where I've added a note that a survey is required to see if they can be distinguished, or whether they might need to end up as two nodes in the same building even.

I was cogitating over night as to whether in the case of multiple
establishments it should be the outer boundary that has the 'amenity'
tag or the indivitual buildings, or as you flag up, nodes within a
single building.

If the building is multi-story, with different establishments on each
floor, then current rules almost force a separate node 'on-the-top' for
each, and amenity=school on the building if there is no outside ground

It would be nice if we can define a rule which allows any data mining to
correctly pick out the multiple tags? So if there is no ref:edubase on
the amenity=school boundary, then there are multiple ref:edubase tags
within the area each with it's own name tag. This allows the area to
have a name which may not actually appear in edubase.

The one that irritates me a little more is the way establishments like
Pershore College - which used to be one of the premier horticultural
establishments - is now just a campus of a larger group of colleges some
of which do not seem to have their own edubase reference. Not sure as
yet if the 'Pershore Group of Colleges' listed is actually 'Pershore
College' and I've currently added that as an alternate name. It is
perhaps too much to expect that the edubase would correctly identify
every location ... I have a similar problem with a couple of 'Federated
Schools' in the area where teaching takes place in two villages, but
there is no actual address listed for the 'satellite', and even from
their own websites no directions to it :(

For my own reference
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/391197329 - no postal address
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/239765335 - not sure if school is open

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