[Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

Colin Smale colin.smale at xs4all.nl
Fri Mar 11 13:19:35 UTC 2016


Richard, 

As we are not copying the content from Wikipedia/Wikidata, but just a
reference, it sounds analogous to the many discussions there have been
about hyperlinks to copyright-infringing content, i.e. the question of
whether the link itself constitutes a copyright infringement. The link
itself (such as the wikidata ID) is "owned" by wikidata/wikipedia
itself, I would suggest...irrespective of any potential claims on the
content of the linked data.

--colin 

On 2016-03-11 13:52, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Without wanting to be a rotten party-pooper, could I just raise the licence
> issues with this?
> 
> Wikidata co-ordinate information is chiefly sourced from Wikipedia, which
> claims to be CC-BY-SA licensed.
> 
> Wikipedia co-ordinate information is chiefly sourced from Google Maps[1 [1]].
> 
> Google expressly prohibits their map data being used "to create or augment
> your own mapping-related dataset (or that of a third party), including a
> mapping or navigation dataset"[2 [2]], which is what is proposed here. (There
> are other relevant prohibitions.)
> 
> Wikipedia has a much looser attitude than OSM to copyright on factual
> information for various well-rehearsed reasons. That's their call, but we
> cannot simply take Wikidata's assertion of CC0 on trust. Neither CC-BY-SA
> nor Google-owned compilations of factual data are compatible sources for
> ODbL+CT.
> 
> I am far from certain of the interplay of "substantial" and "insubstantial"
> in Database Directive and ODbL terms here, and to what extent rights subsist
> in data that has been compared but not directly copied. But it needs careful
> thought, ideally with references to case law, which it doesn't yet appear to
> have had.
> 
> cheers
> Richard
> 
> [1]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Obtaining_geographic_coordinates#Google_tools
> [2] https://developers.google.com/maps/terms
> 
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Links:
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[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Obtaining_geographic_coordinates#Google_tools
[2] https://developers.google.com/maps/terms
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