[Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

Neil Matthews ndmatthews at plus.net
Mon Mar 14 20:18:48 UTC 2016

I'd argue all approaches can be considered correct from the wiki:
"Add a node at the centre of the pub and add amenity=pub to it. ... If 
the whole building is used for this feature and its footprint is present 
in OSM, you can apply the tags on the area if you prefer."
Area obviously applies to "the whole building" but some might read it 
differently :-)

If you're using the whole area style and there are elements, e.g. 
roads,  that don't belong to it then the whole area needs to be split 
into pieces and use a site relation -- like schools?

You also need to "layer" in landuse retail on the "site" that actually 
has the retail portion, and not the car park.

The building probably should be tagged as building=retail? Or 
building=pub? Or both?


P.S. Which building is the pub? 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.45246/-2.42691 / 

On 14/03/2016 19:51, Andy Townsend wrote:
> On 11/03/2016 17:26, SK53 wrote:
>> A quick query on IRC and Andy (SomeoneElse) also maps pubs this way
> True, but not with a zealous committment to it "absolutely being the 
> best way".  I'm open to persuasion.
> Part of the reason might be that I'm probably more likely to sit in 
> the beer garden than most people (as evidenced by the mapping trip to 
> Consall Forge where my suggestion that we sit outside was met with 
> disbelieving "are you mad?" looks from all around). Another is that 
> I've tended to map the entire site of other businesses - see for 
> example http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/241928696 , which is a large 
> site surrounded by a fence - it's very clear what's part of the car 
> dealership and what is not.
> To take a deliberately problematic example 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/374419244 - how would you map them if 
> you weren't going to map the whole area as the pub?  How would you say 
> that http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/374419080 and 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/374419082 belong to the pub? That's 
> "deliberately problematic" because clearly a section of road there 
> isn't owned by the pub.
> Maybe if people have got better suggestions they could show how they'd 
> do it by editing at 
> http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.87134/-3.24177 (on the 
> dev server, preferably after dragging the imagery to one side so that 
> other people can also have a go)?
> Cheers,
> Andy (SomeoneElse)
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