[Talk-GB] Historic England designation data

[Roger James]

On 24/05/16 14:19, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
> On 24 May 2016 at 13:37, Roger James <roger at beardandsandals.co.uk> wrote:
>> Historic England have made their designation data available as shapefile
>> downloads.
>>
>> https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/data-downloads/
>>
>> These appear to be covered by the following licence which references the OS
>> opendata licence
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3467kwj3pos6ewa/OSOpenData_HE.pdf?dl=0
>>
>> Has anyone used this data in OSM or got any comments about it and the
>> suitability of the licence for use in OSM?
> I believe that licence isn't suitable for OSM, as some of the terms
> (notably 3-6, 8) are not forwards compatible with the ODbL that OSM
> uses. However, I've already asked Historic England (aka the "Historic
> Buildings and Monuments Commission for England") if they can licence
> their data under the standard OGL (which is ok for OSM) instead. My
> request and their reply is online at
> https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/re_use_request_for_national_heri
> .
>
> I think what they're saying in their reply is that any of the data
> available from https://services.historicengland.org.uk/NMRDataDownload/SecurePages/Download.aspx
> may in fact be used under the OGL, and that they'll be updating the
> web pages to reflect that soon. Given licensing complexities, and the
> possibility of some at Historic England misunderstanding something,
> I'd personally rather wait until the web pages are updated. Also, as
> you technically you still have to explicitly click "I agree" to the
> previous terms before you download the data, it's not entirely clear
> whether what they wrote in response to my WDTK request would be
> binding.
>
> Robert.
>
Hi Robin,

I thought that those additional terms in the licence looked at bit iffy. 
Thanks for confirming that. I will await developments.

Roger