[Talk-GB] UK OSM Community Interest Company (UK local chapter)

Brian Prangle bprangle at gmail.com
Mon Oct 3 09:11:38 UTC 2016


A week has gone by and the legal opinion on our AoA has attracted two
comments, both from proposed interim directors, so I'm proposing to
consolidate these and communicate with the lawyers for an early resolution.
I don't think the issue warrants a conference call judging by the level of
interest.

On 29 September 2016 at 00:34, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) <
robert.whittaker+osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 26 September 2016 at 11:35, Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Now that SotM has finished we should have time to concentrate on the pro
> > bono legal review of our Articles of Association. I'll give it a week for
> > folk to fnd time to look at this. If there's a deal of contention on any
> > issue then we'll have  a concall to resolve it, if not then I'll proceed
> to
> > send off the documents and fee to register us at Companies House.
>
> I'd already had a look through and made some notes, and I think I've
> got broadly similar points to Rob's.
>
> * The change in 8.1 appears to be broadening the Director's powers
> significantly. (I thought we'd agreed that they should have all powers
> in the end anyway, but perhaps I'm mistaken. Is the change there from
> before the lawyers got the document perhaps?)
>
> * The conflicts of interest stuff in 20.x seems to have been watered
> down a bit. While it's true that old 20.2.1 and 20.2.2 can be
> over-ridden by the directors anyway, I think it's probably better to
> retain them on a matter of principle. Old 20.1 and 20.2.3 seem to have
> been genuinely lost, and I think they're sensible provisions that we
> should maintain.
>
> * The dropping of old 23.4 and the wording of new 23.3 appears to
> allow non-members to be Directors, which is presumably not what we
> want. Although new 25.1.7 could restrict to Ordinary and Associate
> members. (Although can you cease to be something you've never been in
> the first place?) It would be better to be clear in 23.3 if Directors
> have to be ordinary members.
>
> * It's not clear to me why the 9-year maximum term has been dropped
> from old 24.4. If this isn't for legal reasons, it should probably be
> reinstated.
>
> * New clause 24.3 is very confusing, and I'm not completely sure what
> its effect is supposed to be. A literal reading, seems to say that any
> director who retires and isn't re-elected, and isn't forced to stay on
> to keep up the number under 24.4, and isn't defeated in a re-election
> attempt, may (if they wish) stay on another year(ish) until the
> following AGM. This seems odd to have... At the very least this clause
> needs clarifying.
>
> * The changes between old 23.3, 23.5 and new 23.3 have changed the STV
> voting for a set number of directors into a simple resolution in
> favour or against each individual standing. I don't think this is what
> we want. In our discussions we wanted to have the number of Directors
> fixed in advance of the meeting, and then elect the best people to
> fill the vacant positions.
>
> * Original clauses 28/29 -- We decided we wanted to exclude
> non-natural persons from being company members, so I think that needs
> to be put back unless there's a legal problem with doing so. While I
> can see the logic in simplifying things by combining clauses on
> "Ordinary Members" and "Associate Members", I think they actually may
> make things more complicated and harder to untangle, particularly if
> we ever want to change anything for one class of membership and not
> the other at any point in the future. I also think the lawyers have
> erred in their changes, as I couldn't see anything to clarify that
> only Ordinary Members are members of the company for the purposes of
> the Companies' Act. (The clauses mention a "members' register", but
> the definition of "Ordinary Member" implies that "members" include
> both sets.)
>
> * New 37 has changed the meaning of old 39.1 completely. If directors
> have to be members anyway, then new 37 is a bit pointless, though I
> could see the logic in having it just in case things change. Unless
> there are legal reasons not to, having something about allowing other
> people to attend and speak would be good I think -- even if that's the
> default position anyway.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Robert.
>
> --
> Robert Whittaker
>
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