[Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England 'states'?

Colin Smale colin.smale at xs4all.nl
Mon Aug 21 19:34:24 UTC 2017

One difference with France is that not everywhere in the UK is in a
parished area. In some cases the lowest local government area is a
unitary authority which can be huge. A French commune is often just a
single hamlet. There are nearly 37k communes in France! 

Another difference is that the postal address (including postcode) is
linked to the administrative address. In the UK the postal addresses can
feel a bit random at times, and often puts and address in a place that
just feels "wrong" to the locals.

Hence I think there can be some justification for maintaining is_in in
the UK - to provide "alternative facts" to help geolocation. 


On 2017-08-21 21:00, Andrew Hain wrote:

> Should we go a bit further and strip out all is_in tags not used by Nominatim across Britain (which may mean all of them), or are there other uses we should consider? The community in France did that when they finished mapping communes.
> --
> Andrew
> -------------------------
> FROM: Dave F <davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com>
> SENT: 20 August 2017 22:57:06
> TO: Andrew Black; Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org
> SUBJECT: Re: [Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England 'states'? 
> I will revert
> DaveF
> On 12/08/2017 22:39, Andrew Black wrote: 
> On 12 August 2017 at 13:12, Dave F <davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi
> I'm unsure if Northern Ireland, Wales & England should be tagged as 'states'.
> A new user's changeset comment:
> Adding more info. is_in:country_code was missing. Also classified Northern Ireland as a state so it appears in the same priority as Wales. Was unclassified before
> Doesn't make sense to me. 
> "A high-level sub-national political entity ( Federated state [1]) in several large countries such as USA ("State"), Australia ("State"), Canada ("Province"). May also be applicable in other countries and languages, "Provincia", "Estado", "Land" - whether is should be used is up to you and mappers in your own country." 
> We are not a federated country. Suggest we revert it. Why is Wales a state in the first place.

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[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Federated_state
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