[Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

Ilya Zverev ilya at zverev.info
Tue Dec 12 15:53:25 UTC 2017


Hi,

I've just pushed a big update to the auditing service. You can now re-check skipped objects. But the "skipped" flag is only stored since today. If you want, Brian, I can reset your validation history for the entire project, so you could re-check all stations.

Also I can grant you admin rights when you have a osm_conflate json file ready to be validated.

We are just 130 stations away from the import being fully checked: http://audit.osmz.ru/project/shell

Rob, I agree that the amenity=fuel tag should go on a territory, not on individual objects. That would be in line with other amenity values: school, university, parking, place_of_worship etc.

Robert, when you find a phone on an amenity=fuel object, you use it to call not a fuel pump and not a building. Amenity=fuel marks not a physical object, it is an abstract entity called "fuel station", with pumps, service roads, buildings and shops. Thus, all the extra properties, like phone or website, should go along the amenity=fuel tag, and not be placed on elements of its infrastructure.

When you map a fuel station with a node, it does not matter where exactly it is placed. The point is, when a driver plots a route to a fuel station, they should get to the entrance of it, and the rest does not matter. Mapping a station as a polygon places the virtual station point anywhere inside that polygon — but that, again, does not matter in practical use.

Ilya

> 8 дек. 2017 г., в 18:43, Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com> написал(а):
> 
> Hi Ilya
> 
> Great tool but it would be nice to be able to be able togo back to items you skipped
> 
> Regards
> 
> Brian
> 
> On 29 November 2017 at 14:49, Ilya Zverev <ilya at zverev.info> wrote:
> Hi Phil,
> 
> I had a few free hours today, so I added the table view:
> 
> http://audit.osmz.ru/table/shell
> 
> Though I'm not sure a fuel station cannot close at 16:00 — for example, a small one that serves agricultural needs.
> 
> Ilya
> 
> > 26 нояб. 2017 г., в 17:52, Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> написал(а):
> >
> > On Sun, 2017-11-26 at 16:46 +0300, Ilya Zverev wrote:
> >> Hi Rob, thanks for looking at the website.
> >>
> >> Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. That is a working tool for validating
> >> an import. Please open http://audit.osmz.ru/project/shell , click
> >> "Validate the import" and check at least a hundred points. You can
> >> move a point when it's off, and you can choose which tags go on an
> >> object.
> >>
> >> If you remember writing me about some of the fuel stations, please
> >> find these on the "browse points" screen, click "edit this" and put
> >> changes there.
> >>
> >> I'll plan to do the import when at least a half of the points have
> >> been looked at — depending on a speed. I will check a few hundred
> >> myself, but me being not in UK, I doubt it would help increase the
> >> quality.
> >>
> > Would it be possible to display this import in a table form, a line for
> > each object and a column for each tag?
> >
> > This would make obvious errors easier to spot, one example I found was
> > a closing time of 16:00 which is an obvious error that does not need
> > local knowledge.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Phil (trigpoint)
> >
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