[Talk-GB] An old chestnut - looking for clarity for road names beginning "St ..."

Colin Smale colin.smale at xs4all.nl
Mon Jul 17 13:34:39 UTC 2017


It is pretty obvious in my mind. St is correct, Saint is wrong. Unless there is evidence that Saint is the prevalent spelling on the ground. And I am unanimous in that.

A great uncle+aunt of mine used to live in  St Nicholas Road, in one of the old Row houses with an outside dunny! Could never understand a word they said...

//colin


On 17 July 2017 14:45:22 CEST, Stuart Reynolds <stuart at travelinesoutheast.org.uk> wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I have read and re-read all of the guidance and local rules relating to
>the use of abbreviations where it would be wrong to expand “St” into
>“Saint”. It is quite clear that, for the UK, “Saint Ives” is wrong,
>whereas “St Ives” is correct. There is also one page where I have found
>“St Mary’s Church” is correct, but “Saint Mary’s Church” is wrong. All
>of this I agree with.
>
>The question I want to clarify is the use of “Saint” in street names. I
>think that is similarly clear that e.g. “St Nicholas Road” (with the
>full expansion of “road”!) is correct, and “Saint Nicholas Road” isn’t.
>But since the small handful that I initially came across in Great
>Yarmouth were last edited by an experienced OSMer (Rob Whittaker), I
>thought that it was better to check with the community than just change
>it.
>
>A not-so-quick Overpass query (using a map which contained the whole of
>the UK, and hence Ireland and a bit of Belgium) tells me that there are
>10,324 ways which are named “Saint *” which potentially need changing
>if we agree that “St *” is correct.
>
>By contrast there are 26,559 ways that are named “St *”, and a further
>7,252 that are named “St. *”.
>
>Regards,
>Stuart Reynolds
>for traveline south east & anglia
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