[Talk-GB] The OSM UK map: abandoned railways may still have bridges.

Paul Berry pmberry2007 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 2 14:57:57 UTC 2017


Michael,

Yes, I stand corrected: the tracks have been lifted here but everything
else is very visible.

The old (< 2015) rendering of the Standard Layer (which was until recently
available on http://tile.openstreetmap.fr and perhaps still is elsewhere)
did show this feature.

Andy,

I'm loath to map in such a way as to favour the Standard Layer (or any
layer, view, etc) as that's against good practice (though it does happen),
and we're not in control of what the layers show anyway. But point taken :)

Regards,
*Paul*

On 2 November 2017 at 14:00, Michael Booth <boothym at gmail.com> wrote:

> Assuming you are talking about this way: https://www.openstreetmap.org/
> way/201674137
>
> Nothing to do with disused=yes - it's not rendered because it's marked as
> railway=abandoned, which is the correct way to tag a former railway line
> where the tracks have been lifted but the route is still visible (which I
> presume is the case here).
>
> Though I do agree that bridge=* and railway=abandoned would be useful to
> have rendered.
>
>
> On 02/11/2017 13:43, Paul Berry wrote:
>
> Thirded.
>
> Examples abound but an egregious one, in this context, is the south side
> of Leeds City Centre where you have the Holbeck Viaduct with its 92 brick
> arches 3 stories high marching across the urban landscape. An extremely
> visible structure in reality but rendered invisible on all the main layers
> simply due to *disused=yes*.
>
> Regards,
> *Paul*
>
> On 2 November 2017 at 13:37, Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 2 November 2017 13:23:53 GMT+00:00, ael <law_ence.dev at ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 01:02:13PM +0000, Dave F wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > o Another is railways - I'm guessing you'd want to remove the
>> >rendering
>> >> > of dismantled railways, and also possibly abandoned ones,
>> >
>> >But please render existing bridges: these are quite common in Cornwall
>> >and are highly significant particulary where they cross roads.
>> >Just because the railway is dismantled or abandoned does not mean the
>> >bridges have magically evaporated.
>> >
>> +1
>>
>> The embankments, cuttings and trackbed have not evaporated either. Their
>> presence on the map is useful for rural navigation (ROW still climb disused
>> embankments and cutting), and they are potential routes for ROW improvement
>> projects which start by staring at a map so let's make OSM useful for this
>> purpose.
>>
>> With 2026 looming we need to avoid hiding useful countryside information.
>>
>> Phil (trigpoint)
>>
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