[Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

Andrew Black andrewdblack at googlemail.com
Fri Nov 17 04:26:10 UTC 2017

On 17 Nov 2017 04:14, "Andrew Black" <andrewdblack at googlemail.com> wrote:

"  I believe we need to be very clear about the licencing. All we have is
Ilya's word (and I don't dispute it but it is hardly verifiable) that Shell
has instructed a third party to map its petrol stations on various
platforms using a dataset it supplied'


I think we need assurance from Shell's legal department (or ay least
management we believe to be reasonably aware of licencing issues.)

An analogy....  I was  once in a confused situation when I was volunteering
for org A.  An employee org B (sponsoring the project) said org C had said
it was ok to do print extracts their maps.  I suspect they had permission
to publish certain extract on website.  Org A printed extracts with no
attribution.As a volunteer my concerns were ignored.

Chinese whispers (is there a better phrase) are common in large

I realise my example is a bit abstract but I don't want to break confidence.

On 16 Nov 2017 17:35, "Brian Prangle" <bprangle at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is something that could be done officially by the UK OSM chapter
> On 16 November 2017 at 13:05, Lester Caine <lester at lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 16/11/17 12:48, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
>> >> Here's a strawman to start the discussion:
>> >>
>> >> Use Harry Wood's improved visualisation as a progress checker, with a
>> colour
>> >> change for  missing filling stations to red
>> >> Get active mappers to add/amend data around their localities or
>> journeys
>> >> Change marker colour for filling stations that are "complete" with
>> Shell
>> >> data where it is correct to green
>> >> Watch the map turn green as we make progress
>> > That sounds good to me. The one issue I have with the import though is
>> > the reference numbers being proposed. As I think someone already noted
>> > in the previous discussion, these seem to belong to the third-party
>> > rather than being an official branch number assigned by Shell.
>> Anybody asked Spar if we can use THEIR list of 1054 forecourts to add
>> even more detail to this. Certainly many Shell and BP forecourts are
>> owned and run by Spar and not Shell or BP ...
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