[Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations
ilya at zverev.info
Fri Nov 17 08:41:40 UTC 2017
I see that not all questions were resolved in May.
Regarding the license: NavAds are authorized to upload all Shell fuel stations to any maps. They are paid to do that. You can find Shell, among others, in their partners directory: https://navads.eu/industries/
NavAds have also signed the contract with us, that includes these words (MY.COM is our parent company):
Supplier grants MY.COM B.V. a worldwide, transferable, irrevocable and perpetual right to use, copy, modify, process, compile, archive, incorporate, display, distribute and/or use, in any way MY.COM B.V. sees fit at its sole discretion, any or all portions of the Supplier Content, distributed to MY.COM B.V. through any means, in combination with any products or services developed by or for MY.COM B.V..
If any Supplier Content will be provided as dynamic or real-time data through an application programming interface (“API”). Supplier grants MY.COM B.V. a transferable license to integrate the API within MY.COM B.V.’s internal systems in order to enable access to, and use of, the API for the delivery of Supplier Content.
* By submitting Listings to MY.COM B.V., SUPPLIER grants MY.COM B.V. the right to publish, amend, make available to the public the Listings subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
* MY.COM provides Navads access to an OSM importing account during the length of contract term to upload data to the OSM platform.
Regarding the source for coordinates: I do not have that in writing, but during one of the calls they explained that they get a list of addresses, then geocode them and cross-check using multiple sources, including Google, Bing and OSM, and then manually correct each location using various satellite imagery. From location accuracy it's pretty obvious that there was more than just geocoding.
> 17 нояб. 2017 г., в 11:14, Adam Snape <adam.c.snape at gmail.com> написал(а):
> On 16 November 2017 at 20:19, Ilya Zverev <ilya at zverev.info> wrote:
> As for the questions about license and location quality, I answered these in May:
> Not completely. I'm not convinced that the word of a third party (nothing personal) that another company has been paid by Shell to input their business locations into various online maps necessarily equates to Shell consenting to their data being released under the ODBL. Nor am I satisfied with your (again, nothing personal but as a third-party) assurance that the co-ordinate information "all placed properly on top of the fuel stations" with an "error of less than 10 metres" is "definitely not geo-coded". Somebody able to offer that certain assurance about how data was definitely not acquired should be equally able to explain how it definitely was acquired.
> I apologise if this seems like I am being obtuse but OSM has a long-standing policy of using sources which we are certain are okay for us to use. These are the standards we hold public sector open data releases to.. If this does (as Brian hopes) set a precedent private data releases, it should confrom to the community's existing import standards, not set a precedent of vagueness regarding licencing. I do hope you can clear this up and we can map the locations because there is lots of useful information there.
> Kind regards,
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