[Talk-GB] Tagging "Shared space" roads (Preston City Centre)

Adam Snape adam.c.snape at gmail.com
Sun Oct 1 13:47:44 UTC 2017


Hi Colin,

I agree entirely (though note that the two share many of those features so
I can see where the argument comes from).

If a shared space is not a living street how should it be tagged?

Adam


On 1 October 2017 at 14:29, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> It depends if you want to have a uniform basis for "living_street" across
> the world (well, Europe at least). The concept is well known and understood
> in continental Europe, and basically implies driving at walking pace, no
> separate pavements, no parking except in marked spaces, and all road users
> (including pedestrians!) have equal priority. Such streets are always
> residential in character.
>
> The UK implementation of this concept is known as a Home Zone [1].
>
> Shared space schemes (see [2]) are something different, aimed at town
> centre environments more than housing estates.
>
> So please DO NOT consider expanding living_street to include these shared
> spaces.
>
> //colin
>
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_zone
>
> [2] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/shared-space
>
>
> On 2017-10-01 15:12, Adam Snape wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Over the past couple of years Fishergate, the high street in Preston, and
> some surrounding streets have been redeveloped and these highways are now
> designated as 'shared space' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_space
>
> Following redeveleopment these were mapped as "highway=living_street".
> Earlier this year fellow mapper 'lakedistrict' left a note saying that this
> seemed incorrect as this wasn't a residential scheme, I agreed and changed
> the roads to unclassified highways (+ 1 tertiary), adding traffic calming,
> surface and access tags as appropriate. These roads have recently been
> changed back to highway-=living_street by another mapper 'Pete Owens'
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52072635
>
> To move things forward I would like others' opinions about how we should
> map such shared space schemes Are we happy to broaden the definition of
> living_street to include them or are they better mapped as ordinary streets
> with additional tags? Another potential option which I toyed with was
> mapping them as highway=pedestrian, adding access tags (bicycles are
> permitted, motor vehicle access varies across the area from 24/7
> thoroughfares, to time conditional/destination/psv only access).
>
> I'll draw lakedistrict and Pete Owens' attentions to this email so that
> they can contribute to the discussion.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Adam (ACS1986)
>
>
>
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